EVE General Discussion

These forums reminds me of the local shop that was in town. A lot of the men folk used to hang around there on the account that it were not really a drinking establishment but it were if you know what I mean. Well there used to be fights and arguments just about every day. There were this one time we went down there to see what were goin on that day. You see we used to find out if anyone needed any help and we might get a little scratch if we played our cards right you see. House work, mowin, or whatever. Times were tough, much like it is today and we had to do what we could to get by.

No one has a gun to these peoples heads forcing them to do anything of the kind. Do not try and lay the blame for other peoples actions at the feet of the staff, that is as far from a valid point as you could possibly get.

removal of complete and standard BBcodes is the main reason...

It may be worth considering that if CCP was inundated with ISD related petitions regarding their misconduct but they didn't have the fallback of pointing to several strait pages of locked retaliatory spam threads, we might see CCP looking at this from a different angle. Regardless of who is starting it, lashing out and exasperating the issue helps who exactly?

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I am not sure how long you have been playing, but I clearly remember a time when all the **** posters stayed ONLY in the CAOD section of the forums. For some reason that I cannot explain, in the past 1-2 years the asshatery of that section has trickled out to all of the rest of the forums sections and have become the norm. Ultimately, it has to do with CCP's complete lack of rule enforcement which has bred an environment that favors the loud, the immature, the hateful and the obnoxious. That's not a good business model IMO.

What exactly are you talking about? You stated that the actions of the ISD forced people to be vulgar, abusive and disruptive. I merely pointed out that the choice of how to act was entirely down to the people posting on the forums.

There were two courses of action available to people. They could either voice their displeasure in an adult fashion, detailing clearly their grievances, citing examples if possible and perhaps even noting ways in which the situation could be improved.

Then there is the other course of action. Go to the forums, make multiple threads lacking content, context or discussion of any usable nature. Then proceed to hurl abuse, make attacks of a personal nature and cause endless disruption.

Neither of those options, if looked at by a reasonable adult, would require coercion, force or threats of any kind. Proof of what I am saying is readily available in multiple places. There are those people who made a choice in the beginning to take option number one, some of those people are now taking the second option, they are making choices.

In fact I am going to use one of those people as an example, and I hope he takes it as the compliment that it is meant to be. Ruby Porto, now posting on his alt Pipa Porto, was one of the people who at first chose option one to air their grievances. However, as soon as it became clear that that option was not viable, and as soon as suitable lines of communication became available, he switched to option two and has, for the most part, done a fairly good job of attempting rational discourse.

No one from CCP or the ISD has forced him to do this, he could have sat back and said nothing more or even continued to be aggressive, but clearly he feels that this is something he can contribute to, and as such has made the choice to take the second option and at least try to post responsibly.

As to the rest of your reply, frankly I have no idea what you are on about.

Excessive Negativity bans - Best forum feature ever

Just making a point on the highlighted section:

Really? They (WoW players) can't spell? Have you read these forums lately? I can't begin to count the number of people who don't the difference between "there", "their" and "they're"; and "your" and "you're".

The other items I have mixed feelings about. However, the progressive murder of the English language has always been an irritation to me.

Eve forum is only bad because of Trolling 'forum alts'

Battlenets forums aren't that bad, sure they aren't brilliant but they aren't the worst forums on the planet.
FM's forums probably have the highest concentration of grammar nazi's.


LoL's forums are the worst I've ever seen anywhere.

They don't want to build anything, they just want to be able to do something to players they don't like, but can't face in the game itself (ie goons and goon allies), so they lash out the only way they can, on the forums. It's a power trip, pure and simple, and I'm not at all surprised CCP didn't consider something exactly like this would happen before allowing player volunteers to police the forums.

I swear, if this keeps up and CCP doesn't fix it, I'm going to...

...continue to play Eve and openly mock the ISD until I get banned from the forums.