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1.5 Bil Isk security deposit

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Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#21 - 2012-07-02 11:39:55 UTC
State that you want to use Chribba's service as a third party holder.
Kenpo
The Guardians of the Beam
#22 - 2012-07-02 12:34:45 UTC
Norm Tempesta wrote:
penifSMASH wrote:
Confirming the above poster. I use security deposits for my corp for similar reasons. It is standard practice for most high quality corps.



Doesn't sound legit to me. Especially without using a third party escrow until certain conditions are met. They have already looked at my wallet per required api submission and use that to determine how much they can ask of me. That is bullshit, if they require a security deposit it should damn well be stated in their recruitment information, and be a set amount.


Clearly this is not the corp for you to join then, move on and find another corp. Trust no one, especially a corp that asks for a security deposit to join. I certainly don't.

Caution, rubber gloves and faceshield required when handling this equipment.
InternetSpaceship
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-07-02 13:34:56 UTC  |  Edited by: InternetSpaceship
Kenpo wrote:
Norm Tempesta wrote:
penifSMASH wrote:
Confirming the above poster. I use security deposits for my corp for similar reasons. It is standard practice for most high quality corps.



Doesn't sound legit to me. Especially without using a third party escrow until certain conditions are met. They have already looked at my wallet per required api submission and use that to determine how much they can ask of me. That is bullshit, if they require a security deposit it should damn well be stated in their recruitment information, and be a set amount.


Clearly this is not the corp for you to join then, move on and find another corp. Trust no one, especially a corp that asks for a security deposit to join. I certainly don't.


And how are things going in the internet-famous Imperial Order of Templars?

OP, long story short, if you want to get into a big, active, successful alliance, you will be putting up some kind of collateral. It sucks, but its a way bigger risk for the corp to bring on a potential spy/awoxer than it is for you to bicker about an inconsequential amount of isk that you're going to get back anyway. When you do big things in Eve, you make big enemies, and you have to have some kind of gateway to try and screen them. It isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.

Those corps don't get so big by just letting everyone who asks in, no questions asked. I'd be more suspicious of a corp that didn't require it. They're either so small and poor they're desperate for any ass who will join, or they're setting you up to steal all your ****.

jeelani juggs wrote:
Haha! Tried that when I was a noob. They didn't do jack squat except steal my retriever/hurricane and 250 mil. Goons are a scamming corp far as I'm concerned.


Or perhaps you just didn't make the cut. If our security check picks up that you are a spy trying to get in, don't be all surprised when you don't get the deposit back. No corp is so cordial with potential threats trying to infiltrate. It also comes with being big and successful, just check any thread in GD. "Goons are scammers, goons are botters, goons are really carebears after all, goons really suck at this game, etc, etc." Because, of course, we owe our size and success to scamming all potential recruits and never recruiting anyone into our corp.

Sour grapes.

Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.

If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
Norm Tempesta
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-07-02 13:35:12 UTC
Looks to me like the other people that would like to use the same type of behavior chimed up first, good to see that there are some reasonable people joining in on the discussion. Especially since this is a 3 year old toon with a stable history.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-07-02 13:59:17 UTC
Norm Tempesta wrote:
Looks to me like the other people that would like to use the same type of behavior chimed up first, good to see that there are some reasonable people joining in on the discussion. Especially since this is a 3 year old toon with a stable history.


I'm surprised after 3 years of playing you haven't realized that this is a common scam.

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Lady Skrillex
XTELLARIX
#26 - 2012-07-02 14:38:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Skrillex
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
Sekurity Deposits are sometimes required to establish that you are legitimate and have good intentions.

*Security, and use a trusted third party if you decide too. Maybe even send a evemail to the corp CEO; and make sure said member isn't using the corps name for their own benefeit.
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-07-02 14:56:13 UTC
Lady Skrillex wrote:
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
Sekurity Deposits are sometimes required to establish that you are legitimate and have good intentions.

*Security, and use a trusted third party if you decide too. Maybe even send a evemail to the corp CEO; and make sure said member isn't using the corps name for their own benefeit.

No, I definately meant to say Sekurity not Security so un-tangle knickers so not yours in a twist.

Black Man with Goggles
Tusen Takk
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-07-02 15:22:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tusen Takk
jeelani juggs wrote:
Haha! Tried that when I was a noob. They didn't do jack squat except steal my retriever/hurricane and 250 mil. Goons are a scamming corp far as I'm concerned.

i apologise for my brethren's behaviour, if you speak to Blawrf Taggert or Woo Glin they will certainly help you join Almighty GoonWaffe and restore your former assets to you, provided that it wasnt for the reasons listed here:
InternetSpaceship wrote:


Or perhaps you just didn't make the cut. If our security check picks up that you are a spy trying to get in, don't be all surprised when you don't get the deposit back. No corp is so cordial with potential threats trying to infiltrate. It also comes with being big and successful, just check any thread in GD. "Goons are scammers, goons are botters, goons are really carebears after all, goons really suck at this game, etc, etc." Because, of course, we owe our size and success to scamming all potential recruits and never recruiting anyone into our corp



thanks and have a wonderful day,
Tusen Takk
Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#29 - 2012-07-02 17:02:05 UTC
Lady Skrillex wrote:
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
Sekurity Deposits are sometimes required to establish that you are legitimate and have good intentions.

*Security, and use a trusted third party if you decide too. Maybe even send a evemail to the corp CEO; and make sure said member isn't using the corps name for their own benefeit.


Seems legit.

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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#30 - 2012-07-02 17:45:53 UTC
scamming is not against the EULA, Just saying =)

you bout to get scammed.
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#31 - 2012-07-02 18:03:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemon Ceed
Norm Tempesta wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1508841#post1508841

Your words Daemon..


How dare you use my own words against me! How dare you!

I demand an apology, or 1.5Bil ISK. Whichever damages your pride the least.
Norm Tempesta
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-07-02 18:08:23 UTC
Daemon Ceed wrote:
Norm Tempesta wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1508841#post1508841

Your words Daemon..


How dare you use my own words against me! How dare you!


Haha, I have to use whatever ammunition I can find, I don't have too many choices due to what I have to work with :)
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#33 - 2012-07-02 19:39:24 UTC
Janus Varg wrote:
There are a lot of corps. Join another one.

QFT

Alek the Kidnapper, Hero of the CSM
Stoleas
Quantum Link Company
#34 - 2012-07-02 20:28:52 UTC
Corps/Alliances pay me to join...
Srioghal moDhream
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-07-04 13:20:59 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
1,5 bill is not so bad...I know of corps that thake your first-born....AND your wife.


Wait... they will take my kids AND my wife? Where do I sign up
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-07-04 15:50:25 UTC
Stoleas wrote:
Corps/Alliances pay me to join...


That's the spirit.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-07-06 10:50:34 UTC
Norm Tempesta wrote:
What kind of corp would ask for this as a condition of you joining?

I recently applied to a corporation and they asked me for this stating that I was a former member of an opposing coalition 2 years ago for 3 months. Does this make sense to anyone except as a way to rip someone off?


don't listen to them , you gonna get scammed .
Its almost the corp scam 101 basic code

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Beachura
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-07-06 20:18:07 UTC
This thread is so bad, don't fall for it mate, no security deposit.
Mexan Caderu
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-07-10 08:34:51 UTC
3 options:

1. A fool and his isk are soon parted
2. TRUSTED third party holds the security deposit
3. Look for another corp
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-07-10 18:02:00 UTC
Good corps don't charge an entrance fee, period. Anyone who says other wise is scamming you.
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