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Devalued ISHUKONE Shirt? CCP Marketing Malpractice? [UPDATE]

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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#401 - 2012-07-02 07:30:00 UTC
How is this a threadnought.

It's not that hard to understand,ccp made x amount of t-shirts to go.with the promotion. The promotion number was not reached so ccp had surplus stock left. In oder to get rid of the stock they sell it of at a discount.

There is not a shop in the world that would not and has not done this.

CCP only failing was to not set a proper discount price on the original offer to insure that all promotional items were snapped up.

Pog mo thoin

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#402 - 2012-07-02 08:33:44 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
How is this a threadnought.

It's not that hard to understand,ccp made x amount of t-shirts to go.with the promotion. The promotion number was not reached so ccp had surplus stock left. In oder to get rid of the stock they sell it of at a discount.

There is not a shop in the world that would not and has not done this.

CCP only failing was to not set a proper discount price on the original offer to insure that all promotional items were snapped up.



No. The concept of "surplus / excessive inventory" only applies to physical goods.
Bree Okanata
Perkone
Caldari State
#403 - 2012-07-02 08:39:31 UTC
Marketing Malpractice to me is having the Amarr shirt in the EVE store cheaper than the other race's shirts (Though I get it, it is made by slaves).

Also, I didn't see an Amarr shot glass, whereas Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar have ones. How am I supposed to get a full set? Those Amarrian prudes don't like booze?
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#404 - 2012-07-02 08:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Bree Okanata wrote:
Marketing Malpractice to me is having the Amarr shirt in the EVE store cheaper than the other race's shirts (Though I get it, it is made by slaves).

Also, I didn't see an Amarr shot glass, whereas Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar have ones. How am I supposed to get a full set? Those Amarrian prudes don't like booze?


Hahahaha

A perfectly valid questions for CCP Devs when they provide answer regarding compensation later today.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#405 - 2012-07-02 13:21:48 UTC
We were told that CCP would inform us of its decision regarding compensation for the devaluation of our investments two days ago. Is there a reason to this silence?
Rikula
Doomheim
#406 - 2012-07-02 13:34:08 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
We were told that CCP would inform us of its decision regarding compensation for the devaluation of our investments two days ago. Is there a reason to this silence?


Probably the weekend is the reason :)
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#407 - 2012-07-02 13:41:07 UTC
Rikula wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:
We were told that CCP would inform us of its decision regarding compensation for the devaluation of our investments two days ago. Is there a reason to this silence?


Probably the weekend is the reason :)


Yup hehe just trying to entice our CCP to get back to us as soon as possible. I don't want this issue being postponed until the completion of the Alliance Tournament.
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#408 - 2012-07-02 15:42:59 UTC
People whining about their investments in the ingame RMT store.
Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#409 - 2012-07-02 16:49:59 UTC
I do not understand the problem. It's not like you didn't get 13 PLEX for that money (worth over 5 billion ISK).
iskflakes
#410 - 2012-07-02 17:06:01 UTC
Bump, where is the response to this?

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Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#411 - 2012-07-02 22:42:55 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
I will aim to provide an update tomorrow on exactly what we plan to do. That plan is almost final, however, I do not want to state something which may change in the next 24 hours.

Greetings good Sir, have you come to a conclusion yet?

How to win EVE
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#412 - 2012-07-03 01:11:23 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
CCP Navigator wrote:
I will aim to provide an update tomorrow on exactly what we plan to do. That plan is almost final, however, I do not want to state something which may change in the next 24 hours.

Greetings good Sir, have you come to a conclusion yet?

His silence is deafening, can't you hear it? Big smile
Khalia Nestune
Mad Stacks
#413 - 2012-07-03 01:13:52 UTC
Rond Dorlezahn wrote:
If you bought 13 plex for cash to get a SHIRT, I have no sympathy whatsoever for your plight


^ this

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#414 - 2012-07-03 01:58:54 UTC
Khalia Nestune wrote:
Rond Dorlezahn wrote:
If you bought 13 plex for cash to get a SHIRT, I have no sympathy whatsoever for your plight


^ this

At that time it was the only way to get that shirt. I can see a reasonable expectation that it would have remained that way.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#415 - 2012-07-03 03:51:01 UTC
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:

....
In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles?
...


lol... a dev trollin'...

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Y'nit Gidrine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#416 - 2012-07-03 04:41:40 UTC
To the OP:
Are you honestly asking a corporation to tell you what their future business plans will be before they know what their future business plans are? CCP has been - and is continuing to - experiment with how they can monetize the game so that they can pay off those loans they had to refinance back in October (the ones that were SUPPOSED to be paid with by micro transactions). How can they tell you what they are going to do in the future, when they don't know it yet themselves?

Consider this: HI BILLY MAYS HERE! I'M HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT A LIMITED TIME OFFER OF TWO FREE MIGHTY PUTTIES™ WITH YOUR ORDER OF OXICLEAN™!!! BUT WAIT!!! IF YOU ORDER NOW, YOU ALSO GET A FREE MIGHTY PUTTY STEEL™! BUT YOU BETTER ORDER NOW, THIS IS A LIMITED TIME OFFER AND IT WON'T LAST LONG!!!

What you are doing is the equivalent of getting upset that evil Billy Mays made a limited time offer where you get two free Mighty Putties™ and one free Mighty Putty Steel™ with your purchase of Oxiclean™. You assumed that none of the products would ever be offered ever again. When in reality, it isn't the products which are "limited time only", but the combo deal with is a "limited time only". Everyone else seems to understand this (or at the very least isn't surprised by it).

Actually, your situation is even more (for lack of a better word) pathetic. You are effectively complaining that somebody else was allowed to purchase an air freshener that YOU got for free when you purchased a mercedes. Rational people do not buy a car so that they can get an air freshener, and they certainly do not get upset when the car company decides to offer air fresheners to other customers - even if the mercedes they bought only came with a free air freshener for a limited time only. You bought a mercedes, and your compensation was a mercedes. The complementary air freshener was a fringe benefit of marginal worth.

CCP's marketing was not deceptive unless they specifically stated that you would not be able to purchase the special t-shirt in any other way. YOU were the one who made this assumption, and by the looks of it, you don't have very much company.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#417 - 2012-07-03 04:55:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Y'nit Gidrine wrote:

CCP's marketing was not deceptive unless they specifically stated that you would not be able to purchase the special t-shirt in any other way. YOU were the one who made this assumption, and by the looks of it, you don't have very much company.

While it may not evidence the ultimate intent for this item, it's worth noting that CCP has already acknowledged the release of 2 items on the nex as a mistake. Arguing that the item can be bought separately and the "package deal" was a poor investment doesn't apply because if everything went as stated it should have, the shirts rarity and resulting value would have been preserved and that poor deal would have remained the only way to date to have gotten the item.
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#418 - 2012-07-03 09:50:52 UTC
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Joelleaveek wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:


In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something...


I think rather then creating special bi-monocle items you should make its so items can be added to each eye individually. for mixing and matching.

Differently colored monocles in each eye? Would that not classify as a crime of fashion?


Ha, 90% of the avatars in game are fashion criminals already.

I think one should be able to put a monocle in one eye, one of those creepy robot eyes in the other, and the wear sun glasses over it all.

Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#419 - 2012-07-03 15:21:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
Here is super solution , we need Tailor profession in game and ability to patent clothes design. so every one become orginal and uniqe person in eve P Oh wait CCP already got this job ;)
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#420 - 2012-07-03 17:54:48 UTC
When is the 'Dropping panties from NPCs' patch coming already....?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.