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Any thoughts to old 'unique' ships being potential prizes in a lottery?
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Vana Dell
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-07-02 07:42:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Vana Dell
I would like this, very much. I could be done, maybe as an anniversary event. If the odds were sufficiently low enough you wouldn't see everyone and their brother in one either, which it probably would be. Has there been any kind of talk about this short of thing being done?

Edited to add: just to make some things absolutely clear let me spell out that I'm only talking using isk to buy tickets, not Aurum. I envision a multi-tier lotto where things like the Interbus Shuttles dominate the lower tiers, where as more useful spacecraft like the Megathrone topping the upper tier with statistically worse odds to win the further up you go.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-07-02 13:27:49 UTC
The problem is that making limited issue ships available in some way drastically reduces their value (not just because of extra ones on the market, also because of "what if CCP does this again" speculation). It's just not fair to the collectors who have spent tens of billions of ISK collecting the ships if they just get handed out again.

Also, why would CCP be running a Lotto?

If you're talking about them being prizes in a player-driven lotto, you should talk to Somer. There have been similarly valued ships as prizes for some of the Bonks that they do now and then, I wouldn't be surprised if Somer could get his/her hands on something limited issue.
Vana Dell
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-07-02 15:07:57 UTC
mxzf wrote:
The problem is that making limited issue ships available in some way drastically reduces their value (not just because of extra ones on the market, also because of "what if CCP does this again" speculation). It's just not fair to the collectors who have spent tens of billions of ISK collecting the ships if they just get handed out again.

Also, why would CCP be running a Lotto?

If you're talking about them being prizes in a player-driven lotto, you should talk to Somer. There have been similarly valued ships as prizes for some of the Bonks that they do now and then, I wouldn't be surprised if Somer could get his/her hands on something limited issue.


And you think it's alright for everyone else in the galaxy getting excluded from possibly owning one? Look, this isn't like I'm suggesting this be part of some kind of micro transaction. For once I'd have to agree with the fantards and say that would be a singuraly bad idea. We're talking limited run lotteries with long shot odds that reintroduce these unique ships in small numbers in a way that someone like me, who never got a chance to even attempt to get one, can have a change to get one.

Along with everyone else.

Don't you think that's "fair"?
ninjaholic
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2012-07-02 15:34:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ninjaholic
Vana Dell wrote:
Don't you think that's "fair"?
No. It devalues those ships. People who've spent more time, money, are playing Eve Online longer than you shouldn't be penalised because you realised this game was awesome 2 years later than they did. Forgive my blunt comment but you snooze you lose. Sometimes, that's just the way the pod 'splodes.

For the record, a toon with nearly 2k likes is probably talking sense.

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Vana Dell
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-07-02 15:53:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Vana Dell
ninjaholic wrote:
No. It devalues those ships.

In what way, brain trust? Those collectors are very like never going to sell those ships, even if they should ever get reintroduced by any method.


ninjaholic wrote:
People who've spent more time, money, are playing Eve Online longer than you shouldn't be penalised because you realised this game was awesome 2 years later than they did. Forgive my blunt comment but you snooze you lose. Sometimes, that's just the way the pod 'splodes.

And these people would be penalized by someone who didn't get a chance to get (for example) a Guardian-Vexor getting a long shot chance at getting said ship, how exactly? Probably wouldn't have any impact on their day at all.

ninjaholic wrote:
For the record, a toon with nearly 2k likes is probably talking sense.


And now you resort to argumentum ad populum? Really?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#6 - 2012-07-02 16:07:35 UTC
Everyone still has the chance to own one, you just need deep enough pockets. Blink

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Vana Dell
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-02 16:10:23 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Everyone still has the chance to own one, you just need deep enough pockets. Blink

Touché. Lol
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#8 - 2012-07-04 01:52:27 UTC
No to the topic. The entire point of 'limited edition' or 'unique' ships is that they are limited and unique.

Vana Dell wrote:
[quote=mxzf]Don't you think that's "fair"?


Ah, the catch-cry of do-gooders the world over.

There are people who only get to eat a couple times a week. Is it 'fair' that you get to have 3 square meals plus snacks whenever you want them?
There are people living in mud-huts or on the street. Is it 'fair' that you get to live in a nice house?
There are people who have never even seen an electrical appliance. Is it 'fair' that you have a computer, probably a smart phone and a television?

You do-gooders want to be careful, because if the world ever does become 'fair' you stand to lose a lot.
Ruareve
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-07-04 02:55:49 UTC
I'll admit that I like the idea of getting the chance to acquire a State Raven without having to spend trillions (if there are any in game still), however part of the mystique is the fact they were a one time deal.

As much as it would be fun to have something from the start of the game when I wasn't around I realize that any seeding of one time ships would greatly devalue them. There's just no way to work them into the game again.

What would be nice to see are unique ships distributed more often than the AT or anniversary gifts.

Why not have a quarterly faction ships put on the LP market similar to the Ishukone Watch Scorp. They don't need to create new ships nor invest a lot of work into changing the art or stats. Just some minor adjustments here or there to give some flavor and leave them on the market for two weeks. Rotate through the different empires and even the pirate factions.

This would give newer players the ability to get something special, take nothing away from the ships already released, and wouldn't require much coding work.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-07-04 15:11:20 UTC
I'd like to, not because some nerd is willing to pay billions to feel special with "another" hangar queen, but because I'm willing to fit it and go fight with for lulz and giggles.

brb
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#11 - 2012-07-04 17:13:28 UTC
ninjaholic wrote:

For the record, a toon with nearly 2k likes is probably talking sense.

500 more likes and I'll have to stop rambling **** on the forums?

Sad

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mxzf
Shovel Bros
#12 - 2012-07-04 21:43:04 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
ninjaholic wrote:

For the record, a toon with nearly 2k likes is probably talking sense.

500 more likes and I'll have to stop rambling **** on the forums?

Sad


I wouldn't worry about it too much. It turns out that no matter how many likes you have and how well you post, people will still call you a troll if you disagree with them or shoot down their ideas Ugh
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#13 - 2012-07-04 21:58:50 UTC
The only ships I would support being given out in some fashion would be those that have had the last one destroyed.
Furious Mittens
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-07-05 03:44:18 UTC
If these were made, they would need to be ridiculously useful in order to keep a small population consistently used (assuming they would be rerun when they become too rare to be worth the risk). We don't want players just hoarding them in hangars like Alliance Tournament prizes.