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The turning point of EVE, five years ago.

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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#1 - 2012-07-01 21:51:13 UTC
On the eve of another great war in Delve, it's appropriate to take a moment and reflect upon the events that took place five years ago--events that would help determine the course of the EVE galaxy. Join me, won't you? Smile

'Twas the summer of 2007, and the Great War raged. The Band of Brothers alliance and its chief pet, the Mercenary Coalition, were conquering region after region in nullsec. Earlier in the year, the non-BoB powers of EVE had come to the conclusion that BoB was serious when it claimed its ambition was to conquer all of nullsec. Having conquered much of the south and west, BoB announced its intention to move eastward and consume more regions. In a desperate move, the great power of the north, D2, declared war against BoB and moved south. D2 understood that it was better to join some allies in a cataclysmic war against BoB than to just sit around and wait its turn to be destroyed.

The non-BoB powers had another good reason to despise BoB: In one of the greatest video game scandals of all time, it had come to light that the CCP devs had alts in BoB, and they had been actively assisting BoB in its takeover of nullsec. When D2, unbidden, jumped into the fight, it seemed for a brief moment that the nightmare of BoB domination would be prevented.

But that hope turned to horror as the galaxy watched the anti-BoB north get rolled up by the Mercenary Coalition. Led by Seleene, who had no ambition beyond being first among BoB's servants, the Mercenary Coalition shattered D2. With effective resistance at an end, MC began consuming the north.

Meanwhile, BoB itself marched eastward against the final bastion of its enemies. The southeast was home to the "RedSwarm Federation." The RSF was a coalition of three alliances, each of whom lacked the strength to make it on their own in nullsec but were formidable when combined: The Red Alliance, the Tau Ceti Federation, and GoonSwarm. Red and Tau Ceti were comprised, respectively, of Russian and French-speaking players who had few other options at the time but to stick together. They were relatively few in number, and had been pushed across the galaxy by more populous alliances. But they were battle-hardened, experienced, and determined to survive. The Goons complemented their coalition partners: They had a lot of troops but little in the way of equipment or organization.

Previously, the RSF had carved out a home for itself in the southeast, tearing apart an older power, Lotka Volterra. Before D2's invasion from the north, BoB planned to assist Lotka Volterra and turn the tide against the RSF. By the time D2 had been dealt with, Lotka Volterra was destroyed. This turned out to be useful for BoB: As they marched east against the RSF, they could simply conquer Lotka Volterra's old regions for themselves.

BoB and the RSF clashed. The RSF fell back. BoB stepped forward and claimed sovereignty over another region of nullsec. The RSF, the final obstacle in BoB's path toward total control of EVE, was fading. The RSF still had control of a few regions, but they were losing hope: If they couldn't stop BoB from taking one of their regions, how could they stop BoB from taking the rest?

Then came the collapse of the Goons. Remedial, the Goons' founder and long-time leader, decided to quit the game. He was convinced that BoB could not be stopped, and that EVE was essentially over. Remedial transferred leadership of the Goons to The Mittani. But before Remedial left, he gave The Mittani his plan for how the Goons who didn't quit the game might still find some fun: Unanchor all remaining sovereignty-claiming structures, pack their bags, cede the Goon regions to BoB, and move across the galaxy to NPC space to mess around. Remedial even gave The Mittani a script for a State of the Goonion speech announcing this new strategy, which The Mittani delivered.

Had the surrender of the Goon regions taken place, the RSF would have crippled. Combined, the three powers had not been able to stop BoB. Without the Swarm, their chances of continued survival would have gone from bad to zero. And with that, all EVE would belong to BoB.

For those who did not play EVE at the time, it is difficult to fully comprehend just how powerful BoB had become. No other alliance has come close to its dominance of the game. BoB and its pets controlled a majority of the galaxy. Its leadership came from players who had been in EVE from the beginning--some from the Beta. Its core was comprised of the oldest and most successful PvP alliances. It had never lost a war. Ever.

Had the Goons retreated, or had BoB succeeded in its goal of defeating the RSF, it is no exaggeration to say that no one reading this thread would be playing EVE today. BoB's dream of total control of EVE would have been realized, but EVE would have died as a result. And at the time, most agreed that a BoB victory was the most likely outcome of the Great War.

But that didn't happen, now did it?

* * * (Proceed to section 2.) * * *

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#2 - 2012-07-01 21:51:43 UTC
Though The Mittani had announced Remedial's plan of withdrawing from the RSF, he had serious doubts about its wisdom. Time and again, Remedial attempted to convince him that the game was broken and that there was no alternative, but the doubts remained. The Goons hated BoB, and many still wanted to fight.

As The Mittani weighed his options, EVE was rocked by yet more revelations from the BoB/CCP scandal. The corruption ran much deeper than was originally believed. Contrary to their protests, the leaders of BoB had known about the devs in their alliance all along, and they were aware of the cheating. Instead of reporting it, BoB's leaders had attempted to cover it up. In fact, BoB's leaders had maintained a secret line of communication with the devs going all the way back to the beginning of EVE. There was apparently no limit to CCP's involvement with BoB--the line between the two had become blurry. By no coincidence, that very same alliance stood poised to conquer all of nullsec. Players were furious.

For BoB, the scandal was a double-edged sword. On the one hand, players all across EVE hated them for it. But on the other hand, CCP's involvement with BoB only reinforced the impression that BoB was invincible. Perhaps the best illustration of BoB's image may be found in the song "EVE Online is for BoB". It was an audio-only parody created by EVE player Curzon Dax in June 2007. Despite its content, it received rave reviews from the devs. The song poked fun at the scandal, but also left the impression that BoB couldn't be defeated. BoB was, in essence, the official alliance of EVE.

To BoB's enemies, the scandal was no laughing matter. The Mittani unleashed the Goons onto the forums in a mass protest. Putting it mildly, CCP was not amused. In the wake of the "threadnought," The Mittani, having only just taken command of GoonSwarm, resigned and turned leadership over to Sesfan Qu'lah. The near simultaneous resignations of Remedial and The Mittani left many observers with just one conclusion: Failure Cascade.

Sesfan, like The Mittani, disagreed with Remedial's plans. Sesfan was a fleet commander, and his natural inclination was to fight. As BoB rolled into the next Goon region and started dismantling its defenses, Sesfan did everything he could to strike back. Then, one day, an opportunity presented itself.

Since ASCN constructed the first titan in September 2006, no titan had ever been destroyed in combat. The reason is that titans had an ability known as the "remote doomsday," which enabled them to completely wipe out an enemy fleet anywhere in the system. Thus, a titan could fly to a safe spot or creep outside of POS shields, activate the remote doomsday against an enemy fleet somewhere else in the system, and retreat to safety or cloak without the possibility of retaliation. Only two titans had ever been killed up to this point. In both cases, the titan pilot had accidentally logged off within 15 minutes of having been aggressed. At the time, there was no visible aggression timer, so if a pilot miscalculated when he had last been aggressed, his ship would remain in space--completely defenseless--for an additional 15 minutes. After those two titan deaths, titan pilots wised up, and none could be killed. Upon reading an extraordinarily lengthy essay about titans written by Goon Bein Glorious, CCP finally fixed this problem by removing the remote doomsday. Titans could only doomsday enemies on the same grid as the titan.

BoB's supreme leader, SirMolle, owned a titan which he piloted with his alt, Shrike. It's been said that in order to field titans across multiple time zones, BoB frequently used account sharing--a violation of the EULA--and that Shrike may have been piloted by one or more additional players. After firing his doomsday at some Goons, Shrike cloaked at a great distance from the gate. The Goons returned, hunting for the hated titan. Like an arrow guided by the gods into Achilles' heel, a tackler managed to fly directly into the invisible titan, decloaking it. Sesfan ordered his fleet to destroy the titan, and he quickly sent word to the rest of the RSF to bring in as many dreadnoughts as they could.

BoB was caught off-guard. The titan's shields peeled away. As the titan's death became a real possibility, someone in the Goon fleet started recording video, along with audio of the fleet comms. The result was this epic video.

Like BoB, titans were considered invincible. The titan was killed anyway. But did it matter?

* * * (Proceed to section 3.) * * *

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#3 - 2012-07-01 21:52:09 UTC
The death of Shrike provided a much-needed morale boost to the Goons, and to all who hated BoB. The fact remained, however, that although BoB had lost a ship, they had control of most of the galaxy. They had never lost a war. From its inception, the Band of Brothers had been given every advantage imaginable, and total victory was just within reach.

Then there was YACAODI1MAC.

In the golden age of the CAOD subforum, anyone in a non-NPC corp could post. CAOD was the primary source of EVE players' information about nullsec happenings, and there was great temptation for members of various alliances to use alts to make bad posts about things. One day, a mysterious stranger appeared in CAOD, announcing himself as the CEO of "Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp," or YACAODI1MAC. He claimed that he was not like the others, and that he had something important to share with the people of EVE.

On July 1, 2007, YACAODI1MAC posted "JUNE IN REVIEW: An Objective Analysis of the War Situation," an excoriation of BoB. It wasn't the first time YACAODI1MAC had made a post; earlier in the month, a post entitled "The Mercenary Coalition's Big Decision" began the long process of driving a wedge between MC and BoB, a theme to which YACAODI1MAC frequently returned--until a split between the two powers did occur a few months later.

But "June in Review" was the first to directly address BoB. Not only was BoB not going to win the war and conquer nullsec, the post declared, but BoB was inherently flawed and ultimately doomed to "disappear." This concept would soon find its expression in the better-known (and much longer) "Why is BoB Losing?" saga.

Needless to say, this was not the prevailing wisdom in July 2007. The first reply to the thread was from a pilot who wrote, simply, "End yourself." That seemed to be the attitude of most readers. But there were a few who found the ideas expressed by YACAODI1MAC to be intriguing.

"June in Review" is notable for another reason. Just a few weeks earlier, GoonSwarm appeared ready to Fail Cascade. It had been beaten and bloodied, it was in the process of losing territory, it lost its founder and his replacement almost instantly, it declared its surrender of territories--though it didn't follow through--and CCP was threatening widespread bans due to the threadnought. But YACAODI1MAC uttered this chilling prophecy:

The goon, Romulus and Remus ad infinitum, suckled on the teat of the she-wolf Remedial;
these goons when still babes, almost strangled by BoB in their cradles;
these goons when children, making a snack of Shrike's titan;
these goons when full-grown, devour the world.


Five years ago today.

- 315
Elohe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-07-01 22:08:07 UTC
The great war is the most epic player generated content in any game in my opinion, it was great to be part of it

you should come back to the alliance james
Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#5 - 2012-07-01 22:20:22 UTC
I doth tingle

And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#6 - 2012-07-01 22:23:06 UTC
Good parallel. I suppose the worry of Devs helping a side during this great war is remote, since most of them will be gone for a summer vacation. Most unpatriotic to this game.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-07-01 22:24:31 UTC
well i didnt read any of that.

the turning point of eve was the introduction of the capital ship class.

see?

i did it in one sentence.
[Of a request for change ask: Who Benefits?](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=199765)
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-07-01 22:25:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Rats
James 315 wrote:
The death of Shrike provided a much-needed morale boost to the Goons, and to all who hated BoB. The fact remained, however, that although BoB had lost a ship, they had control of most of the galaxy. They had never lost a war. From its inception, the Band of Brothers had been given every advantage imaginable, and total victory was just within reach.

Then there was YACAODI1MAC.

In the golden age of the CAOD subforum, anyone in a non-NPC corp could post. CAOD was the primary source of EVE players' information about nullsec happenings, and there was great temptation for members of various alliances to use alts to make bad posts about things. One day, a mysterious stranger appeared in CAOD, announcing himself as the CEO of "Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp," or YACAODI1MAC. He claimed that he was not like the others, and that he had something important to share with the people of EVE.

On July 1, 2007, YACAODI1MAC posted "JUNE IN REVIEW: An Objective Analysis of the War Situation," an excoriation of BoB. It wasn't the first time YACAODI1MAC had made a post; earlier in the month, a post entitled "The Mercenary Coalition's Big Decision" began the long process of driving a wedge between MC and BoB, a theme to which YACAODI1MAC frequently returned--until a split between the two powers did occur a few months later.

But "June in Review" was the first to directly address BoB. Not only was BoB not going to win the war and conquer nullsec, the post declared, but BoB was inherently flawed and ultimately doomed to "disappear." This concept would soon find its expression in the better-known (and much longer) "Why is BoB Losing?" saga.

Needless to say, this was not the prevailing wisdom in July 2007. The first reply to the thread was from a pilot who wrote, simply, "End yourself." That seemed to be the attitude of most readers. But there were a few who found the ideas expressed by YACAODI1MAC to be intriguing.

"June in Review" is notable for another reason. Just a few weeks earlier, GoonSwarm appeared ready to Fail Cascade. It had been beaten and bloodied, it was in the process of losing territory, it lost its founder and his replacement almost instantly, it declared its surrender of territories--though it didn't follow through--and CCP was threatening widespread bans due to the threadnought. But YACAODI1MAC uttered this chilling prophecy:

The goon, Romulus and Remus ad infinitum, suckled on the teat of the she-wolf Remedial;
these goons when still babes, almost strangled by BoB in their cradles;
these goons when children, making a snack of Shrike's titan;
these goons when full-grown, devour the world.


Five years ago today.

- 315



Nice post, seen you in my neck of the woods recently, must be a come down bumping peeps for 10 million ransoms ?

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk

Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#9 - 2012-07-01 22:33:11 UTC
It's official, I finally read an entire James315 post from start to finish. Would actually read again. Smile

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

qDoctor Strangelove
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-07-01 22:35:32 UTC
End yourself.
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-07-01 22:36:18 UTC
I love James threads. As a new player, the history of the universe is all new to me. Thank you for the history lessons.

James315 for CSM 8!

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#12 - 2012-07-01 22:47:00 UTC
It didn't get to the turning point when BoB failed to take that one system's sov...

It's like some sort of epic saga of EVE: POS-based sovereignty warfare.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#13 - 2012-07-01 22:47:47 UTC
There are no Goons.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-07-01 22:48:52 UTC
Rellik B00n wrote:
well i didnt read any of that.

the turning point of eve was the introduction of the capital ship class.

see?

i did it in one sentence.


So you're trolling and offering nothing to the conversation? Good to know. Get out.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2012-07-01 23:34:05 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
There are no Goons.

the goons 0.0 dream is over

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#16 - 2012-07-01 23:53:05 UTC
If nothing else, you always provide an interesting read, James. Not a bad way to blow 15 minutes while waiting in a queue. I wonder though, is it mere nostalgia that prompts it, or something more...?

John Hancock

D3F4ULT
#17 - 2012-07-02 00:16:45 UTC
The turning point in EVE was 5 years ago when I made my first trial account when BoB was in this war.

I sure did give those veld roids what they deserved for taking over my empire space. 5 years later, they're still invading and I'm still at war with them.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#18 - 2012-07-02 00:41:16 UTC
Everything That Has Been Shall Be Again

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.

Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-07-02 00:43:16 UTC
War in null with the same recycled players?... *yawn*
Zastrow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-07-02 02:05:45 UTC
I don't know that I'll ever be involved in anything as truly epic as The Great EVE war in any game, ever. Man those were golden days. On one hand EVE mechanics were so much worse than they are now, but the posting, the propaganda, the diplomacy, the shadow wars and spying... There were no holds barred and it was glorious. As Goonswarm's logistics director at the time I would stay up all night long anchoring POS, I would log in during lectures in class to time stront, I did all of these ridiculous things without question and with no regrets. I wish there could ever be a space conflict so grand again, but I don't know that we'll ever see one.
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