Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Security status might seem a little too disposable with our current system.
Lets make it extremely worth the effort for pilots to secure that status.

Simi inspired Edit: For this, I specify the use of a separate scale used only in high sec space where Concord operates.
There is no point specifying a reaction by Concord to past events that never involved them.

Make a progressive scale, so that concord wants you to stay in your own neighborhood.

If you are above the curve, Concord will protect you. Below the curve, and they don't officially see you.

Unless you shoot at someone above the curve.
Now, if someone above the curve shoots you first, you can still fight back.
Then they make videos of these fights to sell for entertainment you provide them.

For comparison, here are your current existing limits regarding Faction Navies:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Security_status
Here is a brief list of your travelling options according to security status:

Players with -2.0 or worse will be attacked in 1.0 systems
Players with -2.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.9 systems
Players with -3.0 or worse will be attacked in 0.8 systems
Players with -3.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.7 systems
Players with -4.0 or worse will be attacked in 0.6 systems
Players with -4.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.5 systems



I propose the following:
If concord sees you as even -.1, why should they like you enough to always help?

You are in a 1.0 system, they see you getting shot on their big scanner, recognize you. Supervisor leans over, and tells the tech,"You saw nothing, this did not happen..."

So if you have positive standing, you are welcome in 1.0 systems. You enjoy full protection in Hi-Sec.
Not positive? Then they feel you don't deserve to be there, and they are more than happy to look the other way, and let others shoot you.

You are above -1? Then you can visit .9 systems, and still enjoy protection.

You are above -2 Is still safe in .8 and lower.

You are above -3 Keeps to .7 safely.

You are above -4 and you have the .6 and .5 systems only...

Life has consequences. EVE has explosions.
(Inspired in part by Dede Kelmalu's thread)

So basically you want to give a suspect flag to pretty much everyone who PvPs in low sec, even if they go to the effort of staying above -5.

I'm going to have to go with no.

If you are "below the curve" try jumping into Jita and see what happens.

If you have a suspect flag, it doesn't matter if you shoot back or not, players will lock you and point you faster than faction police meaning that for anyone with negative sec status much of high sec would instantly be rendered off-limits for everything except shuttle travel.

dident they say at fanfest that they were gona work on this system

something about the lower your sec status,the more ships come after you and they grow in numbers as you pass through higher sec systems

idk,its late and im sugar deprived, think it was on the eve keynote

Well, obviously you aren't seeing a problem, you don't have negative sec status and you probably never have.

I figure enough are pointing out how wonderful it is we have the sandbox, and that noone is safe anywhere.

Actions and consequences exist. And was it not pointed out earlier that fixing sec status was not that difficult anyways?

What kind of niche scenario is being considered to object with here?

(Joey Carebear never tried low sec PvP before. Despite his previous PvE play, he avoided any improvement to his sec status, so when he tried low sec pvp, he immediately went negative. To his surprise, when he went to Jita immediately afterwards and got ganked)

Really?

Jita isn't even 1.0, so on my system he had to drop far enough to reach -1 or worse. You can travel there from low sec without touching a 1.0 system too.
And he chose to avoid improving his status before traveling in high sec. A bad idea even with our current system.

This is coming after others are told to be more proactive towards their own defense to avoid being ganked.

Spoken like a true carebear...Thats so ********..Just b/c ppl like to pvp or go out of there way to gank you, doent mean we should have harsher Repercussions then you b/c you cant get out of ur mining barge or Mission ship. Grinding sec status as it is can be a royal pain in the ass.

don't lose it in the first place then

Think about Concord more realistically, and less like an automated response.

In gameplay, we may know that the server is responding to specific details. That is not the point.

We are flying spaceships, not pixels on the computer screen. The pixels simply show the most practical way to display our ships, and we fill in the rest with our imagination.

Concord unofficially holds grudges against pilots that routinely kill the ships they are trying to protect. This reflects that.
CCP forgives, Concord remembers.

This makes for more immersive gameplay.

Your numbers are off, your version is even kinder than mine.

And where do you find inspiration saying things like off limits?
You are denigrating the players you claim to protect, insinuating they are helpless before those who would PvP them.

Surely they can handle a gate camp, especially one so limited that they cannot use bubbles at all.

And don't forget, the attackers need to discriminate exactly who it is they are going after. They need to avoid shooting anything that is still in Concord's good graces.

They are, in short, severely handicapped in what they can do.

If you PvP in low or null, by comparison this is not challenging to you.


Ad hominem based on assumptions.

People who do participate can read what I wrote above, and know it as making high sec more interesting.
Danger is what they WANT.

They have alts for supplies when they need them.