Wormholes

hey c4 with c3 static might be better for you guys... oh wait...

http://eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=7079

edit: Next time wait until the FF is up before you move in

The basic problem the OP has is he hears C5-6 great loot, and thinks why should I share the great loot. When the reality is that:

1) You need 4 well fit ships with some sort of logi support to run even the low end sites.
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=CoreGarrison

2) The massive loot people talk about in C5-6 is partially due to capital escalation. If you bring 3 carriers/dreads that's 22 additional BS.

3) Another great source loot is the Radar/Mag sites which even tougher than many 100% sites.
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=UnsecuredFrontierEnclaveRelay

To the OP, yes, a carrier and tengu will die a horrible death in any combat anom in a c5. If you just want to make isk, you could toss up a small tower in an uninhabited c5 and mine all the gas you can find. Vital gas sites net about 1bil each in gas. When you warp a carrier into a 100%anom, a mag site, or a radar site an additional 6 BS will spawn. Those 6 BS, along with the original spawn can break your pimped carrier's fit and then turn your pimped tengu into a mangled mass of crap. Do not expect to do anoms and mag sites with only 2 people. As I said earlier, you could move into a c5 and ninja as much gas out as you can, and possibly do sites in a neighboring c3 or whatever. 2 people protecting a wh will not stand up to much at all so whatever you bring in, expect to loose. if you recruit a few more corp members you can do 100% anoms with 4 RR tengus. That is a little slow, but profit is nice when you only split it 4 ways.

This thread is wonderful, +1 would read again.

Probably would die a horrible death without any previous experience but I've managed to do a C5 site with just a carrier properly fit (tho I did have a mindlinked booster alt buffing my tank) its just extremely slow. But yeah those guardians can quite easily kill a capital if you don't know what your doing.

Maybe a serious suggestion for a change:

If you want to upgrade, move to a c4 (maybe with a static c4). All anomalies can be done with three (tech 2 fitted) Tengus in reasonable time and will bring you around half a billion income per hour.

You will need:
- One nice large tower with lots of hardeners and ecm which has to look as unattractive as possible otherwise.
- Some ships to close wormholes if needed (Orca or some Battleships, Batlecruisers with 100mn propulsion mods).
- Probing alts - more than one would be good. One of them will always probe for new signatures when you are running sites; the other is for backup only and shouldn't log in at all.
- The usual stuff for running and salvaging sites of course. Consider gas mining - nice bonus income.

You won't need:
- Many pvp ships (maybe a bomber or two), mining stuff, production and research facilities, capitals and probably lots more that you might think of right now and I don't.

If you can't bring those things listed above, stay where you are as moving up will only increase effort and/or risk and will not give you any more rewards.

The "half billion" per hour (of pure site running) was just to give a comparable under simplified preconditions - same as most people use that are mentioning c5 income for example:
a) You know your holes
b) you have your ships and you have your fleet ready
c) and of course have some anos available.

This can take a while, but can also be quite fast some times. It also depends a lot on how you look at it - as precondition to fly anos or just as things that raise the opportunity to fly anos when they are available. The latter is often the case in my corp; no players to shoot at were to be found, all holes are scouted and our current static c4 has nobody active and a couple anomalies. From this point on everything it's the before mentioned half billion per hour (or whatever depending on number of people participating).

I also don't really count hauling the loot out, because sooner or later you will go to empire for other reasons (like fuel blocks) and can do it then.

If you start taking costs and time for the pos setup into account, you can also look at fitting and buying your ships, reading the forum and everything else, but I think this will be too complex to get any realistic numbers for that.


One good thing to start with would be:
find a home that already has lots of anomalies waiting for you, so you can take your investments out of the equation after the first few days and only go for profit. Good thing is, there are lots of empty and quiet c4s that make this possible.