Warfare & Tactics

Our Bunker busting fleet was never over 35 guys once it got that late I think it was down to like 20ish on the last few.. When we hit Abune, Oin, Temi ect.. there were over 20 Gals/Min logged on in Nenn, There was another 6 to 8 in Rak & about 6 to 10 at various times in Nis. You guys had numbers online to do something, so don't whine that you guys couldn't get your act together or be assed to undock and defend your space.

Our Busting fleet last night basically was just an ongoing effort for several hours to hit as many systems as we could. We had a constant turn over in pilots as some docked up & others joined in. It wasn't just a late night AU thing it went on for several hours from US to AU. Myself I was only around for the last 4 or 5 bunkers.

Something else you complain about Caldri PVE , meanwhile it's been a pretty ongoing trend that Caldari has been out killing Gals in FW kill each week for a while now. Last week Caldari had 1,492 FW related kills while Gals only had 1,194 (this is in game stats)

Not only are we out PVEing you we are also out PVPing you.

That isn't stats from eve-kill.. That is in game stats that counts all kills by any corp/alliance enrolled in each Militia. The only ones that don't show up on the side of Gals is kills from Qcats when no other Gals are there.. Meanwhile most of the time Qcats are sharing KM's with Gal corps so the same kill is counted for both Minmatar & Gallente.

Qcats are no longer in Gal Militia anyway.. trying to add their stats to Gals would be like trying to add any kills that Amar corps make to Caldari's. Just because they stay in Gal space doesn't make them Gal kills.

Only final blows count for the ingame-statistic. Try again....

Gallente are failscading and that's a fact.

It started when your 'big boys' decided to jump on the easy isk train that is winmatar. The fun fact is - they contributed nothing to minnies' success since it was made possible by others' efforts, be it goons or old minnie corps, and they left the rest of you froggies in the caldari frypan .
Now the remaining gals are crying about their pvp awesomeness while caldari "bears" coordinate and make isk from t4.

QQ some more gals, your tears are sweet indeed.

Nice job tbh takes a fair bit of co-ordinating to do that, your Snuff overlords must be very proud

And Gallente failcascading lol, oh you do have some comedians.

Think at one point a few days ago there were 16 Gallente systems and about 5 Caldari systems were vulnerable and pretty much no-one could be arsed to do anything about it, says a lot really about what a lot of people currently think of FW and system "capturing" pretty much a joke tbh.

If you take one / all of the main Gallente corps home systems then you will get some nice kudos, but tbh if you do all that will happen is the corps drop FW and continue to kill you anyway, completely and utterly pointless.

But anyway, as i said in my first line, nice job.

Are you trying to imply the gal militia has been getting more kills?Cause they haven't, KB says otherwise. It's also nonsense that these systems and bunkers were taken by bears.
We went out and had fleet fights all weekend as we bashed bunkers and the gallente tried to stop us. You couldnt. The one big fleet fight you did win we took the bunker anyway moments after the fight ended when you lost Pyn. There were plenty of fights over those bunkers and more than a few fleets fights as we took them down, so don't be telling tales.

I like the fact you make it seem like the plexing is unopposed, as if we are fighting NPCs only when we go out into your systems and run your plexes . Half the time you come into the plexes and get your asses handed to you.

I do recall you singing the same tune the last time we took all your systems, as you tried to explain to your militia that the little sign in the upper left hand corner that said "OCCUPANCY: CALDARI" didn't mean anything.

You boys are getting by on your old money, and frankly are a pack of lazy bastards trying to nest on last years laurels and crying sour grapes as you get plex raped. Someday that old money gonna run out, and then you gonna get Kicked out. Then you can go back and loaf around in gallente space where you belong. That's if you can find anyplace to dock....

I wasnt implying anything, i was clearly stating that the Gallente kills vs. Caldari kills from the militia window isnt a true reflection of the PvP situation. This is in no small way due to the fact that the largest entitiy out there killing caldari scores kills and they count towards minmatar totals, not gallente. Meanwhile, caldari kills on these minmatar count towards caldari totals. This results in skewed numbers and without interpretation the figures in the militia window paint a very misleading picture of kill rates.

And yes, you did win a fight against a fleet of pests half your size (70 vs 35?), and while you did that the fleet i was in was smashing a separate caldari/amarr logistics fleet (with no logistics of our own) on a gate 3 jumps away. Then later of we combined to even the numbers a little in pyne and smashed you guys again. So even you single victory was only part of a losing landscape.After the fight of course you took pyne, we logged off lol. Losing systems, specially stationless systems like pyne that we can farm back is innevitable. They are flip flop systems. Its nice to get a fight so that worked out well, but ultimately it wouldve make no sense to deplex it.

As for plexing, ive spent hours chasing around plexers and have killed around 50 of them. On top of those there were countless failed attempts where i was decloaked by the beacon and the wt immediately left the plex (running from a nemesis lol). I can only assume that you are unaware of the sheer amount of farming currently being undertaken. I dont blame them, the incentives are huge and the barrier to entry is non existent for a caldari FW toon. Its just a shame that in my experience, 95% of the plexing is being done for isk where the occupancy war couldnt be further from their mind. Also, thats not just my impression, thats what has been said to me in a number of local conversations.

And if that happens thats just fine.If we wage war in a manner where you are compelled to leave militia to get shots off at us that's just spiffy doodle.Gallente driven out of system is mission accomplished, you can go to ground and raise the black flag and try and fight a guerilla war, but at that point you are just pirate scum.Cal militia has a long history of dealing with pirate scum, and with no gals around it will be relatively easy compared to fighting the whole of an organized militia.

The point wasnt that we deserve kudos, but that you all spent so much time saying that there was only 2 militias, and everything thats going is is done by carebears,

PS, dont be so sure it wont be me shooting you in the face.

Nice to see you are already making contingency plans for the inevitable.

You guys have always had the better skilled Pilots and deeper pockets and better ships. We have always had the numbers.

We get a few FCs who can face the math, and you guys are done.

lol, i have no idea what you are on about or who these people are... I dont represent a single notion you attribute to the 'gallente' and have been arguing against station lockout and the harsh dis-balance of the tier system since they were announced. Mainly due to the fact i saw the writing on the wall of caldaris job being infinitely easier than gallente given the current variables and the way it was obviously going to be driven by PvE.

Maybe you should find someone to quote who is actually saying this stuff?

All im saying is that occupancy is currently being driven by a slew of newb alts speed tanking rats, a luxury the gallente have never had since we have to deal with missile spam which never misses. It will be interesting to see the VP numbers the day after they change plexing to require you to kill all the rats.