EVE General Discussion

Ah, that reminds me of this hilarious thing when we heard about three supercapitals just a jump away from our capital.

Then it came out that someone had gotten hotdropped by them. Hah! That's 1.5bil gone for you. (Don't worry, it wasn't a strategic fleet carrier, it was ratting).

And so sitting in a station while you go make a sandwich is botting as well?

Meh, well you can bounce safes over and over and over if you feel like it... making new ones, going around like a crazy person.

Or spend that slot and cpu/grid to fit a cloak.

This whole topic is debatable
Turning up in a cloaky ship in a enemy system and creating havoc and messing up any pve or industrial ops is a valid tactic , however. Waking up in the morning moving a cloaky. Ship into a enemy system and then go to work or school for the rest of the day is in my opinion pretty lame and depends how you look at it even be regarded as a form of botting or even a exploit

I always been in favour for introducing a new gamemechanic that will prevent such a thing
Preferably something skilledbbased that will not actually decloak. But will reveal a sphere where the cloaky ship is inbetter your skill and more time you invest the smaller the detectionsphere will be and will be up to the defenders to figure out a way to dispose of him , a cloaker who is active will be moving around and be almost impossible to detect but a real afk cloaker will eventually be detected and will most likely find himself in a new clone when he comes back home a new kind of probes could do the trick

Game breaking!

1) If it serves no purpose, then it can do no harm, so why are you complaining about it?

2) If being in local means that you are necessarily active, then local is once again a perfect intel tool, telling you who is Active in system. With AFK cloaking, you lose the "active" intel, so Local is less useful.

I deal with people cloaked in my system on a daily basis. It does not hamper my ability to do anything I want to do. As a matter of fact, it adds some excitement to my day.

I would like to apologize for suggesting that people in Eve should play in such a manner. Forgive my transgression.

Actually, OP, you are wrong. Local chat should never be used as a means of information gathering as it is today. By preventing the player from finding you, you essentially feed him false information, just like for instance japanese fed americans false information before Pearl Harbour or like allies fed false landing information before D-day. It is your task as a player to discern real from false information in order to optimize your performance. That and of course proper probing of the system - after all, who ever said pirating was supposed to be easy? I thought null sec = more reward at more risk. Or was I misinformed? :)

I really, Really, REALLY hate complaining about AFK cloaking, it makes us (null sec residents) look as whiny as the High Sec crowd.

To be sure, I hate the practice, I personally wish there was a better way to either actively hunt afk cloakers (cloakers in general, like with destroyers dropping space depth charges, submarine hunting in space lol)) or otherwise deal with them (fuel for cloaks, cloak cool down (stay cloaked to long and it takes damage like an overheated module) ect ect.

Advocating changes isn't bad, but what we should do in the mean time is adapt. I adapt by actually leaving the system and killing all the un-used "natural anoms" that are out there. I know people who like to keep their mining operations mobile like that too. (a recent example of me being mobile because of an afk cloaker https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1546970#post1546970 ) .

As much as I hate to admit it, AFK cloaking is a counter to both local and upgraded systems, and everything needs a counter. We tell High sec miners that they must accept GANKING because what they are doing (mining) affects others. Well, we in null sec have to accept some form of interference with what we want to do as well while we print our isk.

It's only fair.