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Nave Drallig
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-06-28 04:24:08 UTC
i just had to get a new PC today and i am currently re downloading eve on the exact date this happens.... FML...
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#22 - 2012-06-28 04:33:55 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
BolsterBomb wrote:
Right PVP didnt have anything to do with it............


The caldari proved they are coordinated, can field caps when needed, took out some massive fights and routinely had fleets of 40/50 man gangs

Im not saying we are L33T PVPers but we did what needed to be done and worked together. We used guerrilla warfare and achieved the goal


Non of that captured a single plex.
Also, the caps of ours you killed you did so with the help of the NC, or snuff box. Meanwhile we killed your caps all on our own.
We have kicked you off nearly as many bunkers as you have bashed bunkers this month lol. You kicked us off one with the help of a 50 man NC. supercap fleet lol.

Lets not lose perspective here lol.



If Gals have more cap pilots and more cap ships with the ability to stop bunker/ihub busts and openly proclaim on the forums how awesome they are for that - I am curious:
Why are you losing so many systems?

Maybe the answer will help us get some 'perspective'.


I didnt say we were that awesome.

But notice im not here asking for props for the obscene amount of PvE my militia is currently undertaking.

As for the bunker busts, something like 9 bunkers were bust last night in the AU tz. That tz we have a grand total of zero corps to cover. Well done. lol
Nave Drallig
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-06-28 04:38:29 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
BolsterBomb wrote:
Right PVP didnt have anything to do with it............


The caldari proved they are coordinated, can field caps when needed, took out some massive fights and routinely had fleets of 40/50 man gangs

Im not saying we are L33T PVPers but we did what needed to be done and worked together. We used guerrilla warfare and achieved the goal


Non of that captured a single plex.
Also, the caps of ours you killed you did so with the help of the NC, or snuff box. Meanwhile we killed your caps all on our own.
We have kicked you off nearly as many bunkers as you have bashed bunkers this month lol. You kicked us off one with the help of a 50 man NC. supercap fleet lol.

Lets not lose perspective here lol.



If Gals have more cap pilots and more cap ships with the ability to stop bunker/ihub busts and openly proclaim on the forums how awesome they are for that - I am curious:
Why are you losing so many systems?

Maybe the answer will help us get some 'perspective'.


I didnt say we were that awesome.

But notice im not here asking for props for the obscene amount of PvE my militia is currently undertaking.

As for the bunker busts, something like 9 bunkers were bust last night in the AU tz. That tz we have a grand total of zero corps to cover. Well done. lol



Point on the doll were the plex farmers touched you....
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#24 - 2012-06-28 04:42:47 UTC
Nave Drallig wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
BolsterBomb wrote:
Right PVP didnt have anything to do with it............


The caldari proved they are coordinated, can field caps when needed, took out some massive fights and routinely had fleets of 40/50 man gangs

Im not saying we are L33T PVPers but we did what needed to be done and worked together. We used guerrilla warfare and achieved the goal


Non of that captured a single plex.
Also, the caps of ours you killed you did so with the help of the NC, or snuff box. Meanwhile we killed your caps all on our own.
We have kicked you off nearly as many bunkers as you have bashed bunkers this month lol. You kicked us off one with the help of a 50 man NC. supercap fleet lol.

Lets not lose perspective here lol.



If Gals have more cap pilots and more cap ships with the ability to stop bunker/ihub busts and openly proclaim on the forums how awesome they are for that - I am curious:
Why are you losing so many systems?

Maybe the answer will help us get some 'perspective'.


I didnt say we were that awesome.

But notice im not here asking for props for the obscene amount of PvE my militia is currently undertaking.

As for the bunker busts, something like 9 bunkers were bust last night in the AU tz. That tz we have a grand total of zero corps to cover. Well done. lol



Point on the doll were the plex farmers touched you....


Ive killed 46 plex farmers this month, are you making a point?
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-06-28 04:58:25 UTC
You do know we took 6 before 1 am eastern right?

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#26 - 2012-06-28 05:02:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
BolsterBomb wrote:
You do know we took 6 before 1 am eastern right?


In stealth bombers?

Well done bolster. It must have been glorious. Your legend will never expire lol.

Also, i assume that means end of US tz and beginning of au.

Either way, it was insane amounts of PvE, almost as much as the other 3 militias combined, that made it possible. Im very happy for you :) Finally something squids are good at lol.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#27 - 2012-06-28 05:15:05 UTC
Congrats to CM and also thank you to the many people who donated LP to pump up today.

No goons were used in this event.

As for alt farmers:
I plex and mission a LOT. I have seen 2, new-toon farmers, in the last 3 weeks. They are just not out there.
Because lets face it, a 2 day old Merlin on D-scan isn't going to scare anybody. Gallente militia do in fact roam and hunt almost non-stop. They will kill them in short order.

Alt farmers will:
Dilute the LP value.
Consume the available plex's
Offer zero pvp assist
Not help in boosting the system upgrades

If these farm-alts are getting around in enemy space... it is not Caldari Militia's doing. We don't like it either tbh.

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#28 - 2012-06-28 05:28:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
RavenPaine wrote:
Congrats to CM and also thank you to the many people who donated LP to pump up today.

No goons were used in this event.

As for alt farmers:
I plex and mission a LOT. I have seen 2, new-toon farmers, in the last 3 weeks. They are just not out there.
Because lets face it, a 2 day old Merlin on D-scan isn't going to scare anybody. Gallente militia do in fact roam and hunt almost non-stop. They will kill them in short order.

Alt farmers will:
Dilute the LP value.
Consume the available plex's
Offer zero pvp assist
Not help in boosting the system upgrades

If these farm-alts are getting around in enemy space... it is not Caldari Militia's doing. We don't like it either tbh.



You fotgot the part where they contribute to system vulnerability. Ive been systematically hunting plexers for most of the month and can assure you that most of the ones i killed have no combat record. More than half were less than 2 months old.
Buba002
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-06-28 05:34:43 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
Congrats to CM and also thank you to the many people who donated LP to pump up today.

No goons were used in this event.

As for alt farmers:
I plex and mission a LOT. I have seen 2, new-toon farmers, in the last 3 weeks. They are just not out there.
Because lets face it, a 2 day old Merlin on D-scan isn't going to scare anybody. Gallente militia do in fact roam and hunt almost non-stop. They will kill them in short order.

Alt farmers will:
Dilute the LP value.
Consume the available plex's
Offer zero pvp assist
Not help in boosting the system upgrades

If these farm-alts are getting around in enemy space... it is not Caldari Militia's doing. We don't like it either tbh.



You fotgot the part where they contribute to system vulnerability. Ive been systematically hunting plexers for most of the month and can assure you that most of the ones i killed have no combat record. More than half were less than 2 months old.



Can you prove any of these claims?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#30 - 2012-06-28 05:47:28 UTC
Buba002 wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
Congrats to CM and also thank you to the many people who donated LP to pump up today.

No goons were used in this event.

As for alt farmers:
I plex and mission a LOT. I have seen 2, new-toon farmers, in the last 3 weeks. They are just not out there.
Because lets face it, a 2 day old Merlin on D-scan isn't going to scare anybody. Gallente militia do in fact roam and hunt almost non-stop. They will kill them in short order.

Alt farmers will:
Dilute the LP value.
Consume the available plex's
Offer zero pvp assist
Not help in boosting the system upgrades

If these farm-alts are getting around in enemy space... it is not Caldari Militia's doing. We don't like it either tbh.



You fotgot the part where they contribute to system vulnerability. Ive been systematically hunting plexers for most of the month and can assure you that most of the ones i killed have no combat record. More than half were less than 2 months old.



Can you prove any of these claims?


Can you spell... killboard?
Buba002
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-06-28 05:50:38 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Buba002 wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
Congrats to CM and also thank you to the many people who donated LP to pump up today.

No goons were used in this event.

As for alt farmers:
I plex and mission a LOT. I have seen 2, new-toon farmers, in the last 3 weeks. They are just not out there.
Because lets face it, a 2 day old Merlin on D-scan isn't going to scare anybody. Gallente militia do in fact roam and hunt almost non-stop. They will kill them in short order.

Alt farmers will:
Dilute the LP value.
Consume the available plex's
Offer zero pvp assist
Not help in boosting the system upgrades

If these farm-alts are getting around in enemy space... it is not Caldari Militia's doing. We don't like it either tbh.



You fotgot the part where they contribute to system vulnerability. Ive been systematically hunting plexers for most of the month and can assure you that most of the ones i killed have no combat record. More than half were less than 2 months old.



Can you prove any of these claims?


Can you spell... killboard?



So you have gone through and check EVERY single one of your victim's histories and confirmed that they had no kills?
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#32 - 2012-06-28 05:50:40 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Can you spell... killboard?


And again, our space is polluted by few day old matar plexing alts belonging to gallente militia so I fail to see the problem you have with ours....
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#33 - 2012-06-28 05:52:02 UTC
I saw them on your killboard. At least 20+ Merlins and non-gun Drams. More than I thought by far.You have an amazing amount of kills this month btw. Grats on that.

And you do have a point about the system vulnerability, I'm not sure how much serious impact these guy's have, but i agree they have SOME impact.

My point is, we don't like them either. And I don't think they are all affiliated with 'us'. There is nothing we can do about 'them' unless we resort to shooting blues. (which has actually been discussed)


And the Original Post was about the concerted effort of CM to dedicate LP for the Tier 4. This is almost a seperate thing alltogether from PvP.
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#34 - 2012-06-28 06:03:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
Thank you to everyone who donated LP, my 12 hour old caldari alt made several billion today with your help. I sold everything to buy orders to help you out in return.

.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#35 - 2012-06-28 06:05:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
RavenPaine wrote:
I saw them on your killboard. At least 20+ Merlins and non-gun Drams. More than I thought by far.You have an amazing amount of kills this month btw. Grats on that.

And you do have a point about the system vulnerability, I'm not sure how much serious impact these guy's have, but i agree they have SOME impact.

My point is, we don't like them either. And I don't think they are all affiliated with 'us'. There is nothing we can do about 'them' unless we resort to shooting blues. (which has actually been discussed)


And the Original Post was about the concerted effort of CM to dedicate LP for the Tier 4. This is almost a seperate thing alltogether from PvP.


My only point was that without these null bear alts and such, caldari wouldnt be scoring over 2x the VP of all other militias. Without those VP caldari wouldnt have made enough systems vulnerable to be available to bust them and reach tier 4.

As for damars diarrhoea, its impossible for a few days old toon to tank a caldari major plex. Thanks for confirming how insane you are thought... yet again.

Buba002 wrote:


So you have gone through and check EVERY single one of your victim's histories and confirmed that they had no kills?


Any PvP'er worth their salt knows exactly what they are going up against.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#36 - 2012-06-28 06:28:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Buba002 wrote:
Shadow Adanza wrote:
Humorous. I didn't see the Minmatar post anything like this.
Are the Caldari that desperate for pats on the back?



Considering the fact that Gals fight on a more consistent basis than the Amarr, and the fact that the Gals have more active pvpers, I would say that this is a worthy thread.




PvP didnt have anything to do with this lol

Only the fact that caldari have been PvE'ing at over twice the rate of any other faction. I can only assume this is due to the speed at which a toon trained for 2 days can pay for its own PLEX given that it can earn top rate FW income within hours of its creation in the current iteration of sovereignty wars.

If i could be bothered and wasnt already decently space rich i might roll a handful of toons into cal mil myself.

I suspect lots of null bear farm alts is what made this happen tbh.

Oh and dont get me wrong, i wouldnt complain about being a tier 4, well done.


I think you seem to over look the amount of plexing 2 day old Minmatar alts are doing in Caldari space.. Do you really think Minmatar are getting 10k day victory points from 10 Amarr systems that are camped to hell and back by Amarr Frig & Dessie gangs?

You guys can keep crying about Caldari AFK plexers, but everyone but yourself seems to already know Gals & Minmatars are doing the same damn ****. At some points of the day, you are hard pressed to jump into a Caldari controlled system and not find some 2 week old alt from Minmatar or Gal Militia farming plexes.

Meanwhile because the Minmatar farm alts don't show up as little purple stars in your local it must mean they aren't there right?

The reason Caldari is able to capture space and hold a decent amount of it, is because we put "effort" into defending unlike you Gals.. We have moved corps all around the map to cover specific areas for both attacking and defending. Meanwhile you Gals all live hurdled up a few jump away from each other and complain and try to blame your losing control of the war zone on 2 day old farm alts.
Atrum Skyhunter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-06-28 06:39:07 UTC
The amount of butthurt in this thread is amusing. 9/10 would read again.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#38 - 2012-06-28 06:39:51 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Captain Kunkka wrote:
Subtle thread to get more farmers into caldari militia is subtle.


Wait until we make the thread about navy domis being worth 800m isk. ;)


Must be real nice profits buying the T1 hull for 100 mil & paying 600k LP because you are at tier 1 war zone control.. Lol
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#39 - 2012-06-28 06:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Mutnin wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Buba002 wrote:
Shadow Adanza wrote:
Humorous. I didn't see the Minmatar post anything like this.
Are the Caldari that desperate for pats on the back?



Considering the fact that Gals fight on a more consistent basis than the Amarr, and the fact that the Gals have more active pvpers, I would say that this is a worthy thread.




PvP didnt have anything to do with this lol

Only the fact that caldari have been PvE'ing at over twice the rate of any other faction. I can only assume this is due to the speed at which a toon trained for 2 days can pay for its own PLEX given that it can earn top rate FW income within hours of its creation in the current iteration of sovereignty wars.

If i could be bothered and wasnt already decently space rich i might roll a handful of toons into cal mil myself.

I suspect lots of null bear farm alts is what made this happen tbh.

Oh and dont get me wrong, i wouldnt complain about being a tier 4, well done.


I think you seem to over look the amount of plexing 2 day old Minmatar alts are doing in Caldari space.. Do you really think Minmatar are getting 10k day victory points from 10 Amarr systems that are camped to hell and back by Amarr Frig & Dessie gangs?

You guys can keep crying about Caldari AFK plexers, but everyone but yourself seems to already know Gals & Minmatars are doing the same damn ****. At some points of the day, you are hard pressed to jump into a Caldari controlled system and not find some 2 week old alt from Minmatar or Gal Militia farming plexes.

Meanwhile because they don't show up as little purple stars in your local it must mean they aren't there right?

The reason Caldari is able to capture space and hold a decent amount of it, is because we put "effort" into defending unlike you Gals.. We have move corps all around the map to cover specific areas for both attacking and defending. Meanwhile you Gals all live hurdled up a few jump away from each other and complain and try to blame your losing control of the war zone on 2 day old farm alts.


2 day old toons cannot tank missile spam. Minmatar plexers may garner LP in caldari space but their VP dont count towards the totals in the militia window, so yes, i do think they are plexing 10k VP, the cumulative of defensive and offensive plexing in matar space.

Theres no getting away from the fact that i spend nearly 2 weeks chasing and killing plex farmers. Trying to tell me my impression of these plexers nature is in error is futile. I have done the research, i have performed an autopsy on many of them. The ones i kill i can only kill once since after that they just leave system as soon as i enter. Which means that for all the times i kill a plexer there are dozens of close encounters with those that now know my game and avoid me like the plague. I would go as far as to say that 19/20 plexers are soley farming and are in no way shape or form capable of pvp.

Thats one thing i can say in damars favour, hes always pvp ready. It doesnt stop me from killing him though. And the QQ is worth the monthly sub :)

As for defending, it ends the same. If we defend we still lose systems. Only difference is we dont earn anything in that scenario either lol. The numbers dicate we cannot hold more than 25-30 systems given the ratios of VP's currently being earned. Its not skill or organisation. Its simply lots and lots of farmers evading pvp and admittedly doing a good job at farming LP and winning occupancy with the minimum possible PvP.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#40 - 2012-06-28 06:47:35 UTC
Nave Drallig wrote:
Point on the doll were the plex farmers touched you....

Right HERE, g**d***t! F'ing perverts! Big smile