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Not another high sec miner thread.....Oh yes it is

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Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#141 - 2012-06-27 12:12:10 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
i was going to put pvp implants in my jump clone but i didnt get that far.

im not sure why you would do it to a miner though, just after youve blown their ship up. i guess that isnt enough reward for the kill?

are you guys happy that podding can happen in high sec? just curious.

is there an underlying need to pod in high sec? or a need to pod a miner, in high sec?


Here's one reason that I like:

"To weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to play in my beloved EvE."

Podding is part of this game and crying about it wont change anything.
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2012-06-27 12:22:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Reech Yvormes
yeah i know it wont change but crying has given me something to do today. and to be honest if people dont then nothing will get debated. but i have to be honest about why i didnt stay longer so you guys know that one effect of podding high sec miners just because they are a high sec miner is simply going to get a response of cancelled sub. and one less target to shoot at. my fault it could be, but why push someones button, when they can so easily just push the button and say F this. i am just voicing it, tears or crying whatever, theres probably people who are too proud to say why.

because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.
Breezly Brewin
Vril Metaphysics Society
#143 - 2012-06-27 12:32:55 UTC
the very thing you are upset about happens to be the appeal of this game. hi-sec by eve standards is very safe, "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" applies to implants as well. you keep acting as if everytime someone gets a ship popped or podded they unsub. no, they just put on their big boy pants, get over it and learn from their mistakes.
Tobias Durandal
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#144 - 2012-06-27 12:35:20 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
yeah i know it wont change but crying has given me something to do today. and to be honest if people dont then nothing will get debated. but i have to be honest about why i didnt stay longer so you guys know that one effect of podding high sec miners just because they are a high sec miner is simply going to get a response of cancelled sub. and one less target to shoot at. my fault it could be, but why push someones button, when they can so easily just push the button and say F this. i am just voicing it, tears or crying whatever, theres probably people who are too proud to say why.

because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.



I still think you're trolling.
Breezly Brewin
Vril Metaphysics Society
#145 - 2012-06-27 12:38:11 UTC
Tobias Durandal wrote:


I still think you're trolling.


Blink
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2012-06-27 12:41:57 UTC
maybe you should just get the moderators to only leave posts that are positive feedback so you dont feel forced to read my "troll" feedback.

or you could just revise your definition of the word troll.
Dave Stark
#147 - 2012-06-27 12:43:24 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.


no. that's utter twaddle and you know it.

how long does it take to train a destroyer and a salvager? the same amount of time it takes to finish the tutorial. when i'm in null outside the station i'll quite frequently see a can with a bookmark to a load of wrecks ready for salvage. they're left there for the newer players to take so they can make cash with minimal skills while training whatever else they want to be self sufficient in low/null sec.

eve is not a game that's here to pick you up when you fall, it's here to kick you unless you get up fast enough. you got kicked, repeatedly, and now we're all enjoying your bleeting.
Breezly Brewin
Vril Metaphysics Society
#148 - 2012-06-27 12:44:07 UTC
i'd like to add that in the time i've been posting this thread (3 hours or so) i have made 90m in ice, enough to cover the cost of one of my characters sets of implants. i used my 3rd character to probe scan 4-5 systems in this time as well. thank you troll/crybaby for giving me something to do with the free time. Big smile
Tobias Durandal
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#149 - 2012-06-27 12:45:42 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
maybe you should just get the moderators to only leave posts that are positive feedback so you dont feel forced to read my "troll" feedback.

or you could just revise your definition of the word troll.



Now I'm quite sure of it.
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#150 - 2012-06-27 12:47:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost Xray
Reech Yvormes wrote:
yeah i know it wont change but crying has given me something to do today. and to be honest if people dont then nothing will get debated. but i have to be honest about why i didnt stay longer so you guys know that one effect of podding high sec miners just because they are a high sec miner is simply going to get a response of cancelled sub. and one less target to shoot at. my fault it could be, but why push someones button, when they can so easily just push the button and say F this. i am just voicing it, tears or crying whatever, theres probably people who are too proud to say why.

because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.


How about this for a good reason:

You were podded in high-sec because the guy podding you sells implants and business seemed to be slowing down. You don't think it's right that a guy who sells implants can't earn enough to feed his exotic dancers, do you?

Or maybe, he's a miner too. And discouraging mining in general will increase his profits.

Or maybe his reasons for doing it aren't any of your business. It's YOUR fault for getting podded. You only failed yourself. Learn to take responsibility for your inactions. If you found the experience unpleasant, learn how to avoid it.

It's that "learning" part that people like about this game. They don't make it impossible because figuring stuff out is part of the fun I personally like. Quit trying to ruin my game you Goonie!
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2012-06-27 12:47:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Reech Yvormes
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.


no. that's utter twaddle and you know it.

how long does it take to train a destroyer and a salvager? the same amount of time it takes to finish the tutorial. when i'm in null outside the station i'll quite frequently see a can with a bookmark to a load of wrecks ready for salvage. they're left there for the newer players to take so they can make cash with minimal skills while training whatever else they want to be self sufficient in low/null sec.

eve is not a game that's here to pick you up when you fall, it's here to kick you unless you get up fast enough. you got kicked, repeatedly, and now we're all enjoying your bleeting.


i do salvaging aswell. on a catalyst.

that could have been ganked and poded in high sec too. why because im a salvager in high sec?

i do missions too. why not gank me in my missions. gank my pod then too. is that an activity that is okay by you?

just because at that moment i was mining, doesnt make me some evil high sec miner bad for game must be podded.

2 million an hour. while trying to train asap using +4 implants.

i could train faster than low null sec with these implants. dont you get that?
Dave Stark
#152 - 2012-06-27 12:48:56 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.


no. that's utter twaddle and you know it.

how long does it take to train a destroyer and a salvager? the same amount of time it takes to finish the tutorial. when i'm in null outside the station i'll quite frequently see a can with a bookmark to a load of wrecks ready for salvage. they're left there for the newer players to take so they can make cash with minimal skills while training whatever else they want to be self sufficient in low/null sec.

eve is not a game that's here to pick you up when you fall, it's here to kick you unless you get up fast enough. you got kicked, repeatedly, and now we're all enjoying your bleeting.


i do salvaging aswell. on a catalyst.

that could have been ganked and poded in high sec too. why because im a salvager in high sec?

i do missions too. why not gank me in my missions. gank my pod then too. is that an activity that is okay by you?

just because at that moment i was mining, doesnt make me some evil high sec miner bad for game must be podded.


there's profit in ganking a hulk [infact, any mining barge], there's no profit in ganking a catalyst.
nobody forced you to be a miner, you chose to be a miner.
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2012-06-27 12:50:59 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.


no. that's utter twaddle and you know it.

how long does it take to train a destroyer and a salvager? the same amount of time it takes to finish the tutorial. when i'm in null outside the station i'll quite frequently see a can with a bookmark to a load of wrecks ready for salvage. they're left there for the newer players to take so they can make cash with minimal skills while training whatever else they want to be self sufficient in low/null sec.

eve is not a game that's here to pick you up when you fall, it's here to kick you unless you get up fast enough. you got kicked, repeatedly, and now we're all enjoying your bleeting.


i do salvaging aswell. on a catalyst.

that could have been ganked and poded in high sec too. why because im a salvager in high sec?

i do missions too. why not gank me in my missions. gank my pod then too. is that an activity that is okay by you?

just because at that moment i was mining, doesnt make me some evil high sec miner bad for game must be podded.


there's profit in ganking a hulk [infact, any mining barge], there's no profit in ganking a catalyst.
nobody forced you to be a miner, you chose to be a miner.


i was in a vexor. with miner iis and mining drones. im gallente i use drones, i can use them for mining too you know?
Dave Stark
#154 - 2012-06-27 12:51:44 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.


no. that's utter twaddle and you know it.

how long does it take to train a destroyer and a salvager? the same amount of time it takes to finish the tutorial. when i'm in null outside the station i'll quite frequently see a can with a bookmark to a load of wrecks ready for salvage. they're left there for the newer players to take so they can make cash with minimal skills while training whatever else they want to be self sufficient in low/null sec.

eve is not a game that's here to pick you up when you fall, it's here to kick you unless you get up fast enough. you got kicked, repeatedly, and now we're all enjoying your bleeting.


i do salvaging aswell. on a catalyst.

that could have been ganked and poded in high sec too. why because im a salvager in high sec?

i do missions too. why not gank me in my missions. gank my pod then too. is that an activity that is okay by you?

just because at that moment i was mining, doesnt make me some evil high sec miner bad for game must be podded.


there's profit in ganking a hulk [infact, any mining barge], there's no profit in ganking a catalyst.
nobody forced you to be a miner, you chose to be a miner.


i was in a vexor. with miner iis and mining drones. im gallente i use drones, i can use them for mining too you know?


so you lost practically nothing, and you're still crying!
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#155 - 2012-06-27 12:53:36 UTC
Ghost Xray wrote:

How about this for a good reason:

You were podded in high-sec because the guy podding you sells implants and business seemed to be slowing down. You don't think it's right that a guy who sells implants can't earn enough to feed his exotic dancers, do you?

Or maybe, he's a miner too. And discouraging mining in general will increase his profits.

Or maybe his reasons for doing it aren't any of your business. It's YOUR fault for getting podded. You only failed yourself. Learn to take responsibility for your inactions. If you found the experience unpleasant, learn how to avoid it.

It's that "learning" part that people like about this game. They don't make it impossible because figuring stuff out is part of the fun I personally like. Quit trying to ruin my game you Goonie!


i learned how to avoid it, you know how. either log out and train with +4 or unsub and find a game that isnt hell bend on pissing me off as a new player with years of skills ahead of him and nothing but arseholes trying to stop him influencing the market with his 2million an hour of veldspar and quick training.
Tobias Durandal
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#156 - 2012-06-27 12:53:52 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.


no. that's utter twaddle and you know it.

how long does it take to train a destroyer and a salvager? the same amount of time it takes to finish the tutorial. when i'm in null outside the station i'll quite frequently see a can with a bookmark to a load of wrecks ready for salvage. they're left there for the newer players to take so they can make cash with minimal skills while training whatever else they want to be self sufficient in low/null sec.

eve is not a game that's here to pick you up when you fall, it's here to kick you unless you get up fast enough. you got kicked, repeatedly, and now we're all enjoying your bleeting.


i do salvaging aswell. on a catalyst.

that could have been ganked and poded in high sec too. why because im a salvager in high sec?

i do missions too. why not gank me in my missions. gank my pod then too. is that an activity that is okay by you?

just because at that moment i was mining, doesnt make me some evil high sec miner bad for game must be podded.

2 million an hour. while trying to train asap using +4 implants.

i could train faster than low null sec with these implants. dont you get that?



No, I'm not quite getting it. Could you explain it again in more detail please?
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#157 - 2012-06-27 12:54:48 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
why would i care if they make it worse for newbies to start up by enticing more podding in high sec?

it simply would confirm my choice to unsub was right.

you dont actually want players to be able to go to low or null sec for some reason, what is it some market thing, you dont want new players?


Most people act rationally, if they want to go to low or null, they choose an appropriate stargate and press jump, they don't go to a hisec belt to mine.

What you were doing seems counter-intuitive to me.

Anyway, that's what I did when I got my first Vexor, went to low and made a lot more isk than from mining.

.

Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2012-06-27 12:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Reech Yvormes
Dave stark wrote:


so you lost practically nothing, and you're still crying!


yeah and the 100m worth of implants in my pod.

just because im bad old newbie high sec miner. 2m an hour, influencing marketz. trainz too fast.

seriously, youre ruining your own game.
Dave Stark
#159 - 2012-06-27 12:58:13 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
Dave stark wrote:


so you lost practically nothing, and you're still crying!


yeah and the 100m worth of implants in my pod.

just because im bad old newbie high sec miner. 2m an hour, influencing marketz. trainz too fast.

seriously, youre ruining your own game.


when attacked your first reaction wasn't to spam warp to station because?..
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2012-06-27 13:03:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Reech Yvormes
because i did, not as fast i hoped i called my drones in and died in one second, did warp on my pod and then died too there was someone else there who distracted me. im not sure if they joined in the fight. possibly his other account.

i should just warp away anytime i see a ship and leave my drones there?

yeah i know lots of ways, well not lots, a few to avoid it now that its happened. apparantly i should never die in my pod.

so why can you pod high sec anyway, if it shouldnt happen?

and why cant i insure my 100m of implants yet i can insure my ****** cruiser?