EVE General Discussion

After the changes to war mechanics, small corps have it harder to wage war on large alliances, an activity that could prove very lucrative if done right.

However, today I'm here to cry and whine about good ole' corp hopping. Yes. Again.

We're currently in the middle of a tiny and friendly war with AAA pilots, and we're finding it quite frustrating to see how fond of corp hopping they are.

AAA pilots LOG OFF, get kicked out of corp on demand, relog, and bypass fleets and camps in NPC corps.

How come this hasn't still been addressed as an EXPLOIT?

It was suggested, some time ago, that whoever wanted to quit a corp before a war should do it before hostilities have started.

It was suggested that something similar to an aggro timer should be implemented, so that corp hoppers find themselves to be fair game for a certain period after quitting a corp/alliance in the middle of a war. Make it 48 or even 24 hours, but make it happen.

Is there any reason to explain why this hasn't been dealt with? I don't think corp-hopping was what they had in mind when they set up the corp recruitment/quitting rules.

Yes, I know. High Sec wars are for useless fools who fail at life and EvE, and yes, we should all come to deep 0.0 where your Titans and Drake/AHAC/Alpha BS fleets will pwn the everloving crap out of us, and we should all quit the game and send our stuff to the nearest AAA office...but, could we please discuss about the topic at hand?

Corp hopping is essentially WRONG, and AAA pilots keep doing this, when there are perfectly feasible, quick and fussless solutions suggested by the playerbase.

Sounds like some one's butthurt with AAA.

Corp hopping is part of the game, encouraged even.

Corp hoping is a legitimate game mechanic. You can use another legitimate mechanic (suicide gank), when dealing with these players.

They were originally going to implement a "deserted" flag.

They decided to up war declaration costs and give defenders unlimited allies instead.

Corp hopping and suicide ganking arent comparable;

When suicide ganking you pay the cost for your actions by losing your ship to concord. When corp hopping you are just avoiding a paid for war dec when it suits you with no loss on your behalf.

Seriously, whats the point of having an updated war dec system if its as easily avoidable as dropping corp for 5 mins?

You can rest easy in the knowledge that CCP will 'eventually' fix corp hopping to some degree

I think slipping between the cracks to avoid getting blown to pieces is totally legitimate.

Bravo on them.

Now, maybe an extradition mechanic might be cool.

"I can't help but notice that individuals I was after are hiding among your ranks, mind handing them over for their proper beatings?"



This is where you guys typically go so very, very wrong. You sit in this little box and instead of thinking of new creative ideas, you bleat the same garbage about, "THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED NOW, DAMMIT."

Way to totally miss the point and riposte with some half-assed de-rail. No, no one is happy when they get bent over the bench and pounded from behind. However, that doesn't change the fact that if compared to a real world model, some people would do this very action. Therefore, I see it as working beautifully.

Wait a second. Isn't AAA a nullsec alliance? I'm sure if you want a fight, you can go pretty much anywhere in the south-east and you will get a fight with as much AAA than you can handle. You don't need war decs in low or nullsec to shoot people.

Oh wait. You're trying to gank -A- haulers, -A- ships being ferried, and generally harass the occasional -A- pilot that ventures into high sec. Now it's clear. Well guess what - if you want to use cowardly tactics, expect failure. Fortune favors the brave. Bring your whole alliance to Catch. I promise you'll get people who don't switch corps. At least on our side. I expect all your carebears will jump ship pretty quick once their shiny Bhaalgorns get nuked.

Like I mentioned earlier. An extradition mechanic would be lovely.

Sounds like someone's tongue would reach AAA's upper intestines if AAA stopped all of a sudden.

Also, our small and irrelevant campagin against AAA has a current balance of 8 kills and 0 deaths for the first day.

Our campaing against En Garde is 12:1 (you got an Inty, I think), but it's way more fun because En Garde actually EJECTS tackled ships (ask your Alliance mate Sanada Prime).

This, in short, is not the point.

Corp hopping bypasses the "risk vs reward" mantra, unlike suicide ganking. Gankers LOSE their ships 100% of the time. Corp hopping is stupid.

Also, no, sir. I'm not sitting in my little sandbox refusing to adapt. But perhaps the fact that all CCP changes is pointed at making it HARDER to do small scale PvP against big alliances should grant me some temporary rights to complain.

It's not a matter of ADAPTING. It's a DESIGN FLAW that allows WAR TARGETS from a war that costed us money to QUIT THE WAR unilaterally with no consequences, and whenever they see fit.

This goes against all that EvE represents as a PvP game.