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Reinforce Delve
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Fatbottom Girl
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-27 06:05:22 UTC
With nearly 45,000 pilots deploying to Delve and nearly every 0.0 alliance gearing up to be involved in this war you may wanna go ahead and start reinforcing some nodes the entire region. Just sayin'
Atrum Skyhunter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-06-27 06:17:04 UTC
Better Idea: If you're not already involved, just invade GS/TEST territory while they're busy at Delve. Guaranteed to have 0 resistance!
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#3 - 2012-06-27 06:25:43 UTC
Caldari State is expanding into Delve?
Did i miss a memo?

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Fatbottom Girl
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-06-27 06:46:07 UTC
Atrum Skyhunter wrote:
Better Idea: If you're not already involved, just invade GS/TEST territory while they're busy at Delve. Guaranteed to have 0 resistance!


Ah right soldier, because we couldn't just med clone back to VFK in 2 minutes where we have infinitely more **** than we brought down to Delve.
Atrum Skyhunter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-06-27 06:50:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Atrum Skyhunter
Grats! You just split your army! Now everyone invading GS/TEST territory just takes a chill break or attacks a different region, while you get roflstomped at Delve because random fractions of fleets decided they should medclone back.

You sir, are tactical mastermind of godlike caliber, well done.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-06-27 07:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Atrum Skyhunter wrote:
Grats! You just split your army! Now everyone invading GS/TEST territory just takes a chill break or attacks a different region, while you get roflstomped at Delve because random fractions of fleets decided they should medclone back.

You sir, are tactical mastermind of godlike caliber, well done.



Not really Straight even without jump clones its only... 15-20 jumps there or back. Soooo jump clone back, kick ass, then go back and have a real fight lol.
Also there is likely to be multiple (full) fleets available at any one time, redirecting one to brush away an irrritation isnt a big deal.

This is a war bigger than you seem to realise

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-06-27 08:40:04 UTC
Atrum Skyhunter wrote:
Better Idea: If you're not already involved, just invade GS/TEST territory while they're busy at Delve. Guaranteed to have 0 resistance!

i like how people have no grasp of dimensions. pro tip: your dozen or two capitals will be swallowed alive by the goons' mining alts flying rifters.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-06-27 10:32:24 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Atrum Skyhunter wrote:
Better Idea: If you're not already involved, just invade GS/TEST territory while they're busy at Delve. Guaranteed to have 0 resistance!

i like how people have no grasp of dimensions. pro tip: your dozen or two capitals will be swallowed alive by the goons' mining alts flying rifters.

this made me lol :D but yeah he is right GS wont have trouble defending their space...not now at least
Beshnu
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-06-27 13:16:08 UTC
LMAO....this thread is hilarious

Sure, come on over, our indy toons need a couple more kills
Atrum Skyhunter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-27 18:11:45 UTC
0/10 Your propaganda is weak.
You should try:
* Making alts less obvious, I feel like I'm talking to 8 alts of two guys.
* Try embezzling your power, the guy with the "We will swarm you with rifters" argument is on the right track, but not quite there. Try something a long the lines of "Psh, we have more than enough pilots to leave a fleet behind."
* If you can't create an argument that's well supported by strong logic, make an argument that supported by pure emotion like: "Try it and we will sherminate your face"


Any small time alliance or group of small time alliances with a brain will simply start invading during your big pushes, and leave as soon as your fleet is half way there. It's not that hard to get the timing right, considering EVERYONE has an entry level spy in gs. And you don't really need director access too see an entire fleet just leave. You're still missing the fundamental point of my argument: the alliances invading GS are losing practically nothing. Yet, if you turn around and try to defend you're weakening your offensive power at Delve, at which point no undoubtedly someone from the invading alliances will message the Delve defenders saying "Hey I just met you and I know this is crazy, but they're one fleet short, so attack them now, maybe?" You're effectively fighting a guerrilla war, since there's virtually nothing stopping people from docking up in Syndicate waiting till you leave, and attacking again. Not too mention any non-buffer corp at Delve would likely supply these alliances with resources to keep the heat of their balls.

Now if some larger entity like NC decides to stop dicking around Cabalt Edge region, and just invade your from their border, now you're in really big doo-doo. That's just wishful thinking on my part.

Again, this is all theorycraft and something is guaranteed to happen to make all of this irrelevant. On the other-hand, I'm more often right than wrong about these kinds of things. Oh well, next few weeks are gonna be fun to read about.

http://i.imgur.com/SBB3Z.gif
Loko Morice
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-06-27 19:48:33 UTC
Atrum Skyhunter wrote:
0/10 Your propaganda is weak.
You should try:
* Making alts less obvious, I feel like I'm talking to 8 alts of two guys.
* Try embezzling your power, the guy with the "We will swarm you with rifters" argument is on the right track, but not quite there. Try something a long the lines of "Psh, we have more than enough pilots to leave a fleet behind."
* If you can't create an argument that's well supported by strong logic, make an argument that supported by pure emotion like: "Try it and we will sherminate your face"


Any small time alliance or group of small time alliances with a brain will simply start invading during your big pushes, and leave as soon as your fleet is half way there. It's not that hard to get the timing right, considering EVERYONE has an entry level spy in gs. And you don't really need director access too see an entire fleet just leave. You're still missing the fundamental point of my argument: the alliances invading GS are losing practically nothing. Yet, if you turn around and try to defend you're weakening your offensive power at Delve, at which point no undoubtedly someone from the invading alliances will message the Delve defenders saying "Hey I just met you and I know this is crazy, but they're one fleet short, so attack them now, maybe?" You're effectively fighting a guerrilla war, since there's virtually nothing stopping people from docking up in Syndicate waiting till you leave, and attacking again. Not too mention any non-buffer corp at Delve would likely supply these alliances with resources to keep the heat of their balls.

Now if some larger entity like NC decides to stop dicking around Cabalt Edge region, and just invade your from their border, now you're in really big doo-doo. That's just wishful thinking on my part.

Again, this is all theorycraft and something is guaranteed to happen to make all of this irrelevant. On the other-hand, I'm more often right than wrong about these kinds of things. Oh well, next few weeks are gonna be fun to read about.

http://i.imgur.com/SBB3Z.gif


Except that any "invasion" into the CFC homeland, however well timed, can at worst produce timers they'll happily form up for.

The Eye Of Terror and Fountain's network lets the CFC move from the northwest to the south in not a whole lot of time.

Additionally, if NCdot decided to join a side, it will most likely be on the Honeybadger/CFC side.
Sentry 10
Escape Velocity
#12 - 2012-06-27 21:09:30 UTC
the CFC is bigger than you think, Skyhunter.

Just because the fleet is 'divided' on campaign doesn't mean the CFC can't wage multi-front wars
Fatbottom Girl
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-06-28 02:02:24 UTC
Reinforce Delve guys. Tidi with only 600 in local isn't going to cut it.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-06-28 05:42:30 UTC
Sorry, I'm going to need pictures to back up your name.

Secondly, smuggle an SB into Delve to whore some mails y/n/q?

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#15 - 2012-06-28 05:57:18 UTC
Halete wrote:
Sorry, I'm going to need pictures to back up your name.

Secondly, smuggle an SB into Delve to ***** some mails y/n/q?


There's been dozens and dozens of bombing runs all day today with mixed success. Time Dilation is not conducive to good bombing.

Reinforce Delve guys.

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