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Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-06-26 09:34:08 UTC
I'd like to know the view of the CSM on the current situation in the forums. As you might know, members of the ISD are censoring and locking threads left and right, making huge parts of the forums pretty much unreadable.

I am in favor of having a little moderation on the forums, but there's nothing moderate about what is happening right now.

This is just acompetition between various ISDs and Phantom who can trash more threads by censoring them into oblivion.

Is the CSM looking into this, what are their opinions and are they going to relay to CCP that there's a problem here? Discuss.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
Vincent VanDamme
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-06-26 09:42:52 UTC
Beckie DeLey wrote:
I'd like to know the view of the CSM on the current situation in the forums. As you might know, members of the ISD are censoring and locking threads left and right, making huge parts of the forums pretty much unreadable.

I am in favor of having a little moderation on the forums, but there's nothing moderate about what is happening right now.

This is just acompetition between various ISDs and Phantom who can trash more threads by censoring them into oblivion.

Is the CSM looking into this, what are their opinions and are they going to relay to CCP that there's a problem here? Discuss.


What are they locking?

If its threads with Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, AntiSemitism then I'd tell them to Lock away.

That stuff is toxic and unjustifiable.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-06-26 12:19:23 UTC
Vincent VanDamme wrote:
If its threads with Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, AntiSemitism then I'd tell them to Lock away.

There's lots of miscommunication/incorrect usage of words on their behalf. If, for example, someone mentions the word "jew", the reaction is "it's racism", even though jews aren't a race. And for the usage of the word "jew" to be anti-semitism, there has to be hatred or hostile intent behind the word. Just using the word itself is not an automatic case of anti-semitism.

Vincent VanDamme wrote:
That stuff is toxic and unjustifiable.

I find that the most toxic is very often those who see a word, and automatically get a knee-jerk reaction to it. Kind of like this picture shows: http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/52020122228175202012222039iwsmt.jpg

Don't be that guy.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

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Rer Eirikr
The Scope
#4 - 2012-06-26 16:41:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Rer Eirikr
Edit: Looks like Navigator has taken to pro-active approach, good for him. Cool

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126142&find=unread
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-27 09:58:22 UTC
I have to agree. The ISD volunteers have been locking threads out of personal bias rather than forum rule violations.

Fortunately ISD members are not immune to being reported.

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Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-06-27 10:11:01 UTC
Rer Eirikr wrote:
Edit: Looks like Navigator has taken to pro-active approach, good for him. Cool

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126142&find=unread


Indeed. Let's hope this leads to an improvement.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.