EVE General Discussion

you should probably ask the -10 security griefer who has been playing for more than half a year doing this sort of thing to newbies, how he does it.

i would give you his name but i feel that would just give him glory.

I am assuming that this person ganks miners and you are mistaking piracy as griefing and several month old players as newbies. Because the ganking of nubs in starter systems is bannable are should be reported.

Gankers dont use smartbombs much in high sec as they fail to kill targets most of the time and require far more isk investment than you will gain from ganks as most of the time the wreck will also be destroyed if you do kill the target.

no i was mining in high security with my +4 implants in.

so i get to fight some npc pirates while i mine.

so i am not mining out starter system belts.

so i am able to anchor my cans.

so i can train up my skills fast and get isk to buy a proper pvp ship. and have money to lose trying to pvp.

if this is considered player vs player by CCP and everyone else then really, do those big battles really exist or is it just this kind of slimey one sided gank the guy with one tenth of the skills you have, with your multiple accounts, pod him so he gets skills even slower, robs him of all his value, even though he doesnt even have a gun on his ship. heh. this part is just not my taste of pvp i guess.

next youre going to say that i need a jump clone to mine in high sec without implants in?

ie stay logged out to train fastest........ how backwards is this game mechanic.

gief me training skills? what were they like, was it nice to train up and do pvp at the same time?

because right now, my only option is to train up while parked in a starter system. i took a risk and tried to mine in high security while training. silly me!

you.

you are the reason people hate high sec miners. in fact, i mine and i hate you. i used to mine in high sec and if i still did, i'd still hate you.

you undocked, people are free to kill you. that is all you need to know in this game. there is no such thing as being "safe" if you don't like that, this game isn't for you and you should go back to a pve server on WoW.

No. I will simply say its up to you to figure out if its worth the risk. I myself have never used training implants because I expect to die often.

So you're a couple weeks nub with +4 implants. While it was an expensive lesson for you, it's a very important one. If you can't afford to lose it, you can't afford to use it.

And for any other nubs thinking "I'd like to PVP, is the first step to get into a mining ship?" Captain Obvious is here to tell you "Nay young pilot. Mining will not give you the necessary training to become an ~elite~ pvper. Try joining Red Vs. Blue or Faction Wars."

For the record, I don't care what people do with their time in EvE. Nobody should tell you that you have to PVP. But don't think that you can also tell anyone else that they shouldn't PVP you. Just like you don't want people telling you want to do, don't tell tell the high-sec PVPer what to do.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13752532

You have zero tank on that plus a cargo expander which reduced your structure by 20% making you even easyer to kill. Then you failed to warp off your pod dispite getting three ever louder alarms and the pods abilitiy to instantly enter warp to a catalyst. You even fitting it so you were profitable to gank. This incident was of your own making and very much, a pvp encounter.

the ship i dont mind losing.

i had it insured, i have lost other cruisers and ships before without any issue.


i dont mind losing my mining vessel at all.

its the fact that you would go to the extent of podding a miner too, just to grief the **** out of my training times, knowing that i cant insure my implants, and that it cost me a lot to get them.

its enough to put me off my sub, i can see it does the same to a lot of others.

Whoa, whoa. I've never podded someone just for the sake of it.

Usually it was to illustrate a point.

Sides, griefing doesn't make money.