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Gate camping with an Orca.

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Terribad
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-06-16 02:05:16 UTC
Hi.

Not here to *****, rather get a clarification on whether it's an exploit or not. I'm getting very conflicting reports from players and GMs.

For those who don't know, here's the situation..

1) Player A is camping a gate (usually a highsec gate in lowsec).
2) Player B comes along and starts fighting Player A.
3) Player A suddenly decides that he doesn't particularly enjoy PvP and wants to disengage.
4) Player A warps a neutral Orca alt to the gate from somewhere else in the system.
5) Player A stores his ship inside the Orca's bay.
6) Player A instantly warps off in his pod. The Orca jumps to highsec.

Works the same way on stations with carriers. I was fairly certain that this is an exploit, but my petition resulted in a 'working as intended'. So which is it?
Mystic Lore Arcanium
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-16 05:34:28 UTC
"working as intended" obviously.... move along.
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#3 - 2012-06-16 06:22:58 UTC
Cowardly? Yes.
Exploit? No.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

Elsa Nietchize
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-06-16 11:09:32 UTC
"i shot someone and they didn't like it" thread
Suqq Madiq
#5 - 2012-06-16 14:05:54 UTC
This is what those fellas in Amamake call "elite pvp".
Jones Bones
Battle Toad Brigade
Ribbit.
#6 - 2012-06-17 05:53:44 UTC
I'm sorry a peasant such as yourself cannot appreciate the warrior craft known as "Dance of the Space Whale".
Krasus Minor
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-06-17 08:34:33 UTC
Aaaaaah! So that's what that Orca was doing on a gate in low sec when we bumped it off and raped it with a couple of Blasterthrons.

I must say we were bemused...
Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#8 - 2012-06-17 12:53:13 UTC
Thought you couldn't scoop/board it if it is pointed?
Jacky Blue
Pioneering Operations and Resource Organization
#9 - 2012-06-17 16:23:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacky Blue
Vyktor Abyss wrote:
Thought you couldn't scoop/board it if it is pointed?


If the Orca is pointed, nothing can dock in it? Really? :o

Bunch of us Squids were trying to kill their Proteus (amongst other things) and we had him pointed, he put his toy ship away then legged it in his pod. Was the most boring fight I've ever been in.

When they are in system I just avoid them now really. Not PvP, just amazing trolling :D

Jacky Blues guide / tutorial / fight and random rambling video's :D http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoePpyYRpxJQ0jfS6xB-cTQ/videos

GreenSeed
#10 - 2012-06-17 22:46:53 UTC
if it happened on a system with a hsec gate, its not pvp.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#11 - 2012-06-17 23:39:00 UTC
I've never once seen or heard of that happening.

Which is surprising because I live in highsec where people do all kinds of stupid horseshit to avoid getting blown up.
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#12 - 2012-06-18 09:24:05 UTC
Suqq Madiq wrote:
This is what those fellas in Amamake call "elite pvp".

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".

Bobmon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-06-18 12:24:23 UTC
why do i have the feeling if we say yes it works that you will do it.

btw i would do the following You A me B


A: camps the gate
B: i warp to get and try to kill you
B: i win
A: you warp in your oca
B: i keep scram on you and bump your Orca off
A: you are shitting your self
B: I kill you
A: you Rage cry on forums

@BobmonEVE - BOBMON FOR CSM 12

Jones Bones
Battle Toad Brigade
Ribbit.
#14 - 2012-06-18 15:04:12 UTC
Bobmon wrote:
why do i have the feeling if we say yes it works that you will do it.

btw i would do the following You A me B


A: camps the gate
B: i warp to get and try to kill you
B: i win
A: you warp in your oca
B: i keep scram on you and bump your Orca off
A: you are shitting your self
B: I kill you
A: you Rage cry on forums


Dream on peasant. My whale dances with me at all times.
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#15 - 2012-06-18 15:10:57 UTC
The only way to win this fight is to go global on the orca and force it to highsec while you keep the campers scrammed on the gate. Then kill the campers. If you wish to do this successfully though you need to have someone gank the alt that is watching the highsec side of the gate first so that they don't know a fleet is coming to get them.

I would use a pincer attack to be honest. Send in some highly tanked bait to pin them and shoot the orca and then jump the rest of the fleet in from highsec.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#16 - 2012-06-18 16:44:19 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
if it happened on a system with a hsec gate, its not pvp.

First they declared that PVP can't happen in highsec.

Then they declared that PVP can't happen within 1j of highsec.

What's next?

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Terminator56
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-06-18 18:29:08 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
GreenSeed wrote:
if it happened on a system with a hsec gate, its not pvp.

First they declared that PVP can't happen in highsec.

Then they declared that PVP can't happen within 1j of highsec.

What's next?


Highsec pvp is more of a game of "Who has the most neutral rep alts." Whereas highsec gate camping is a game of who has the most neutral orcas.
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#18 - 2012-06-27 07:13:16 UTC
Terminator56 wrote:

Highsec pvp is more of a game of "Who has the most neutral rep alts." Whereas highsec gate camping is a game of who has the most neutral orcas.



I hope and pray that in the (preferably near) future, they set it so that any one that Interacts with the flagged target gets flagged as well (I.E.: Reppers, Orcas that are used for dock, etc).

May never happen, but A) it would solve a ton of problems in High / Mid sec, and B) would force a bit more commitment on the side of the pirates. Would be a ton of fun as well I'm thinking. Pirate

There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly

Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#19 - 2012-06-27 08:41:23 UTC
This is boring. I was expecting to hear an epic tale of using bait Orcas to get kills. This thread did not deliver.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#20 - 2012-06-27 14:26:48 UTC
Terminator56 wrote:
Highsec pvp is more of a game of "Who has the most neutral rep alts."

It depends on how you fight. If you draw the engagement away from stations, suddenly those neutral RR are at far more risk. Even on station it's just a matter of forcing those logis to dock up by landing something nasty right on top of them as they hide behind the station.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

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