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What skills should I improve first to become a better Tengu Pilot?
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Buba002
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-26 04:48:18 UTC
Hey ya'll, I'm looking for some input on what I need to train up to run missions/rat faster in my Tengu.


Here is a link to my current skill sheet: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Buba002

I'm thinking after I finish up drones (unrelated to my Tengu), I might work a wee bit more on Navigation.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#2 - 2012-06-26 08:06:35 UTC
Shield rigging
Warhead Upgrades to V
And really, the other missile supports to V as well
Covert Ops cloak for a 0.0 version
Target Painter IV and then Syg Focusing to IV

That was just a 60 second glance. You probly do good as you are, but all those will make a difference.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-06-26 11:29:25 UTC
I'll stick to High sec if I where you.

- Missile support to low.
- lots of base skills to low ( Tengu is realy a high end ship, if you want to use it properly, you need to get mosrt of those base skills to 5)
- Shield rigging 1 is unacceptable, Tengu works because it's small and fast, no use to light your self up when using Shield riggs, at least at 4
- Covert ops


It's a great ship, though if I where you I'd look up a few of the top fittings on the Battleclinic and see if you're able to fit those in EFT , EVE HQ or EVEMOM
Lilith Aurilien
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-06-26 11:57:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilith Aurilien
You need these Skills

Cool


...oh, and if you are using shield rigs over launcher rigs you are doing it wrong...
Winimatar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-06-26 17:13:57 UTC
Lilith Aurilien wrote:
You need these Skills

Cool


...oh, and if you are using shield rigs over launcher rigs you are doing it wrong...



I see what you did there!

p.s. advanced weapon upgrades ftw ;)
Buba002
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-06-26 17:17:43 UTC
Mike Whiite wrote:
I'll stick to High sec if I where you.

- Missile support to low.
- lots of base skills to low ( Tengu is realy a high end ship, if you want to use it properly, you need to get mosrt of those base skills to 5)
- Shield rigging 1 is unacceptable, Tengu works because it's small and fast, no use to light your self up when using Shield riggs, at least at 4
- Covert ops


It's a great ship, though if I where you I'd look up a few of the top fittings on the Battleclinic and see if you're able to fit those in EFT , EVE HQ or EVEMOM



What specific base skills are too low?

I don't use shield rigs.

I didn't think about Cov Ops, I might need to do that after I finish up Drones and Navigation supports.
Ryelek d'Entari
Horizon Glare
#7 - 2012-06-26 23:12:41 UTC
Just to clarify, you don't need to train the Covert Ops skill, just Cloaking IV. Should just be 3-4 days.

As for base skills too low, he's probably referring to these:

  • shield management IV
  • energy systems operation IV
  • energy management IV
  • adv weapon upgrades III
  • acceleration control III
  • high speed maneuvering I (wtf?)
  • spaceship command IV
Buba002
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-06-26 23:15:09 UTC
Ryelek d'Entari wrote:
Just to clarify, you don't need to train the Covert Ops skill, just Cloaking IV. Should just be 3-4 days.

As for base skills too low, he's probably referring to these:

  • shield management IV
  • energy systems operation IV
  • energy management IV
  • adv weapon upgrades III
  • acceleration control III
  • high speed maneuvering I (wtf?)
  • spaceship command IV



When would I be using an MWD on a Tengu for missioning/ratting?
Ryelek d'Entari
Horizon Glare
#9 - 2012-06-26 23:39:44 UTC
MWD can improve your completion time on certain missions. Mission deadspace pockets allow use of MWDs. You asked for things that make you mission faster.

You'll also wish you had one when you run into the inevitable infinipoint HAC (or any other good) gatecamp. I assume you don't rat in hisec.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-06-27 08:17:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Whiite
What Buba say's

Just check your Certificate tab in game core and deffence will be usefull. with some minor exceptions (Multitasking, Tactical Shield manipulation V among them)

When roaming large distances Nanite Operation and Nanite Interfacing are usefull as well.
GingerBerger
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-06-27 21:04:39 UTC
I assume you want to run missions faster to make more isk.

Negotiation 3
Security Connections 4

They won't improve your tengu at all, but you will get a much better isk per skill point return than anything else you can train
Lilith Aurilien
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-06-28 11:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilith Aurilien
Winimatar wrote:
Lilith Aurilien wrote:
You need these Skills

Cool


...oh, and if you are using shield rigs over launcher rigs you are doing it wrong...



I see what you did there!

p.s. advanced weapon upgrades ftw ;)


Hehe...well I like to take every chance to show off lol... Cool

p.s. I don't need AWU for the mission fit I use, more than enough PG to spare when you only run a small booster! I may train it at some point though.... Blink
Zicon Shak'ra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-07-09 17:30:30 UTC
Lilith Aurilien wrote:
...oh, and if you are using shield rigs over launcher rigs you are doing it wrong...


Just to clarify: This is true for ratting/missioning/etc. You may need shield rigs for other applications (wormholes and PVP come to mind).

Wormholes are cool, m'kay?
Lilith Aurilien
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-07-10 12:05:34 UTC
Zicon Shak'ra wrote:
Lilith Aurilien wrote:
...oh, and if you are using shield rigs over launcher rigs you are doing it wrong...


Just to clarify: This is true for ratting/missioning/etc. You may need shield rigs for other applications (wormholes and PVP come to mind).


Quite true, I was just talking from a mission/ratting point of view as that was what OP asked about...shield rigs are indeed useful once you step out of solo PVE and into actual danger Blink

Tengu is practically invulnerable in PVE due to speed & size, I never understood people's need to spend billions of isk overtanking the thing when you only need an AB and a small booster...personally I use a TII ROF rig & a rigor on mine, significantly increases dps and reduces mission times...tank is irrelevant when nothing lives long enough to shoot back lol...
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-07-11 22:38:39 UTC
Lilith Aurilien wrote:
You need these Skills

Cool


...oh, and if you are using shield rigs over launcher rigs you are doing it wrong...

fof missiles at 5? kids these days...

I should buy an Ishtar.
Lilith Aurilien
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-07-13 12:04:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilith Aurilien
Daniel Plain wrote:

fof missiles at 5? kids these days...


Why not? Shocked

As a mission runner in Caldari space FoF are very useful in many missions with heavy jamming...in parts of the Caldari Arc they are practically mandatory if you actually want to kill anything!

As for why level V, well, I am training everything to V (OCD reasons) but apart from that, 5% more damage is more damage...

A more astute observationalist would have questioned Jury Rigging V....as that is completely useless to me...I just like the way skills turn yellow on eveboard when they hit V Lol
Charlie Jacobson
#17 - 2012-07-18 07:20:37 UTC
Very nice and focused char, Lilith Aurilien. I'm betting it's not your first ;P. This is my only character, and I never really decided what I want to do, so my own skill sheet is a mess.

I support James 315 and the New Order of Highsec