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How do you feel about Gallente cultural influence?

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#61 - 2012-06-21 01:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Malcolm Khross wrote:
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
What history are you reading? The nation of Garoun, with Caille as its cultural heart, has existed for thousands of years. Much longer than the Raata Empire.


Garoun Empire: 21658 - 21837 (179 years)
Raata Empire: 17453 - 20998 (3545 years)

Garoun is a continent-nation on Gallente Prime. In effect, it is one nation among the whole of (what today is) the Federation.

The Raata Empire was formed by unification of multiple communities (nations) on Caldari Prime and dissolved into other communities after three-and-a-half-thousand years, which then all became the foundations for the megacorporations that governed the State.

What you are suggesting is that because Garoun, a continent-nation is still a continent-nation it is somehow longer standing than the Raata Empire when the two cannot be compared because one is a unity of many nations (the Raata Empire) and the other is a single nation (Garoun). If you want to compare unification attempts, I have provided the duration, in years, of the Garoun Empire and the Raata Empire.


This. You need to read more and shoot less, General.

Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Since Gessanier is doing a better job than me at articulating (not that I consider the realities of his or even my own points a good thing), I'll just point out that the Kingdom of Central Garoun, the Garoun Empire's successor state, has lasted since the latter's collapse.


Yes, and if we're counting successor states, then you must account for the various successor states of the Raata Empire. We can play this game all night.

Katrina Oniseki

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#62 - 2012-06-21 01:48:25 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
"You appear to be grossly oversimplifying things. If you think that Federal corporations function as communal syndicates just because the Federation places a premium on individual talents, abilities, and entrepreneurship, you are making an understandable error."


If this is the actual meaning, I believe my argument was that Federal corporation are not communal syndicates and that is precisely one of the largest differences...

~Malcolm Khross

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#63 - 2012-06-21 19:20:34 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
What do you think of this trend?


Down with this sort of thing.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

David Toviyah
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2012-06-26 14:10:00 UTC
It is the free market at work, nothing more, nothing less, is it not? How can Caldari (or anyone else for that matter) take offense to that?
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-06-26 14:45:20 UTC
David Toviyah wrote:
It is the free market at work, nothing more, nothing less, is it not? How can Caldari (or anyone else for that matter) take offense to that?

And there you have it, the voice of experience—an ideological university student.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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David Toviyah
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2012-06-26 18:26:08 UTC
What was that? I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear you over the blood of thousands of people on your hands.

Besides, you do realize that I am a fairly advanced trader, right? Given how rarely I visit the university anymore calling me a student is a misnomer at best.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
#67 - 2012-06-27 20:47:43 UTC
Since the vast number of items mentioned in the OP were entertainment items, and most here seem to be commenting on other matters, I figure i should comment on the entertainment issue.

Many here, speaking against the spread of 'Gallente culture' reference poison, corruption and the like.
They insinuate that many are being forced to take this 'poison' and are being corrupted by it.

To these people I have to mention the simple fact that while the Federation may produce a large and varied amount of entertainment goods, and may export these items to foreign planets and systems, it is not the Federate government, or any huge over-arching plot that drives the export of these goods.

It is simple supply and demand. The many millions of corporations, companies, production groups etc that produce these items, make a profit from selling to foreign customers or stores, and the populations buy such items from them.

There is no poison here, people of all cultures like to be entertained, and they also appear to like the vast amount of different types of entertainment produced in the Federation.

Should you want to limit the influence these goods have, do not simply ban them, that will only make the supply illegal and mean the criminal elements in your own culture gain more revenue, while this is a sad fact of life, it is true.

Instead, invest in your own culture's entertainment industry. Provide your peers (or lessers depending on your point of view or social standing) with a form of entertainment that you personally find less invasive, or more complimentary to your own culture, if done right, you may even find that your people enjoy your particular brand of entertainment more than that which the diversity of the Federation produces.

The Federation's entertainment industry has had a long time to figure out what people enjoy, and has learned to follow these trends and changes within society, this knowledge doesn't simply end at the borders of the Federation, any corporation follows the profits, wherever they may lead.

Still, in the end, i suppose my point boils down to this:

There is no Federate 'Cultural War' going on, Those who produce the entertainment in the Federation simply see profit in making it available to the largest number of people possible. No one is forced to be entertained by it either, though many, from all the empires and beyond, are entertained by it. If they are also influenced in some way by it, that is not the intended purpose.


P.S.

The 'musician' mentioned in the OP... if she signed up to have someone else write the words to, and make the music for, her songs. :
A) she is not a musician, but a spokesperson for those writers
B) she went into that contract knowing exactly what she was doing.

in recent times Matari influences have become more popular in Federate culture, (no complaints here from me, they are a deeply spiritual people and likely have much that they can teach even an old bookworm like myself) and her particular style of updated tribal music is a product of this merger, created by her writers to make them money.
To state that it could be a form of cultural interference or worse, would be taking things a little too far.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.