EVE General Discussion

ISDs lock good threads and completely miss troll threads and posts. There's your problem.

Warm, friendly atmosphere where applicable. Have you ever heard of atmosphere in space?

When you choose to cry over barbie shirts instead of CCP taking tens of thousands of dollars for a rigged alliance tournament, you basically get what you deserve.

I'd say gtfo, go back to wow, but Eve, CCP and it's new barbiefag customer base deserve each other in every conceivable way.

I have already let my main expire just through pure apathy with the state of this game and especially it's level of nonexistent customer service or tact. For years the forums are what kept me interested in EVE and ultimately made me start up my old accounts and get an alt. The humour and hilarious threads and light hearted but fair GM's made it for me. After several years I have to say that the attitudes towards customers and what is allowed to pass for interactions with the community is nothing but pathetic anymore.

CCP had one chance to save it's ass after Incarna and it has shown that it will still blunder just like it did before but will now redact, censure, insult and provoke it's customers. If you guys want to come to a decent light hearted forum with GM's that actually know what they are doing and where you can have banners and image linking directly in threads without the soup Nazi bastards come to the Mech Warrior Online forums.

I suspect a lot of us will be seeing each other there soon.

The whole issue sounds to me less like one of moderation and more like one of ego.

I get the impression that a (limited) number of ISD forum mods have decided that rather than trying to manage and moderate the usual douchebaggery and annoyance that you usually find on forums, they have instead gone full tyrant and set out to crush all resistance to their authority.

You can get away with that, but only if you're respected by the majority of the people. At this point it's fair to say the ISD has probably gone too far and lost the support of a large number of those which would typically agree with them.

i don't get it

If "Eve is a cold harsh universe" and this forums are a part of EVE why shouldn't "Eve forums are a cold harsh universe"

I enjoy watching the nerdrage and the fists of [EvE] God crushing every malcontents soul.

This isn't a democracy. This is a dictatorship. You don't get to vote by committee how things are to be run around here. If you quit because of this, then I'll give you the proper goodbye salute o7 and say "about your stuff, yeah, you know what I want".

Get out old forum sperglings.

Let us be honest you don't have a job, you volunteer. I'm not trying to deride your efforts but it is what it is.

Game forum moderators lack insights into most of what happens in the company and can ironically feel more annoyance as they not only need to toe the party line publicly but get little information from inside it. For example, I can logically argue on the forum about terrible support and create a great deal of noise doing it. My case might be compelling, but you can't really agree with me in any way. And like most other companies you can't verify claims unless you can get a response from an employee. Extend this to production problems, security breaches or cheating accusations and your lot is to do free PR and first level support. As a volunteer.

However, if your moderation team or overseers have no vested interest in changing the customers perception that the ISD shouldn't be trusted with a burnt match let alone their main communications asset then you should review your "job" description. Any volunteer moderator is only as useful as the last email complaint campaign. I'm not trying to be rude it is a fact and the culture of moderation here of lock, lock, quote rule, lock (not just restricted to the ISD) is very ordinary.

Thank you for the contact information, I will use it.

Finally though, this putting your hand up to help in other ways stuff is not Robinson Crusoe material. It's done widely and done a lot more effectively than here with the draconian, neat little bow rules that prevent any discussion of the environment that we all interact in by shuffling off everyone who complains to fill in a petition.

This only exacerbates the rage by the truly rancid petition response times and for me a complete lack of comprehension by the support staff every time I have had to contact them.

The most recent example was the banning of this character because the moderator in question did not understand the grammatical context of a post I had made. It was two weeks before it was escalated and reversed - with an apology I was grateful to get.

However, it was two of the most frustrating two weeks ever and because nothing can officially be discussed it's te most effective way to bury things.

I understand much of this is beyond your remit but is all interconnected if you want a sane forum.

I can see it now, you going to let these "Ensigns" fly without a net once CCP punish "The Five" and the swarm descends?

Putting volunteers whom you select from the community between yourself and the community with no real notice has to your selection ideologies makes for alot of questions about those volunteers and what their real purpose is.

If we all did that then the only thing on the front page GD would be hulk pilots demanding better protections in empire.