EVE General Discussion

Jesus **** you're an idiot. I agree with you completely, but you're an idiot for buying a shirt for 13 plex.

No, just applying the logic being used. I could admit to it being a bit of a reductio ad absurdum, though.

Not quite. If it doesn't bother me, I consider the argument, and if it's crap, I poke (even larger) holes in it. If it's a good one, I will consider agreeing with it instead. If something visual changes and it becomes apparent that it will not let itself be explained without visual demonstration, then video is a good choice.

I wrote half a thesis on that a year ago. Nothing has changed since so there's no reason to write any more about it. At least they finally got the pricing right, so if nothing else they're faceplanting in the right direction.

Why was your "special edition of Aliens" called a special edition? Is that reason the same reason the Ishukone shirt was called "special edition"? What would a potential customer of the 13xplex deal think the "special edition" might reasonably mean? Was the wording of the offer targetting collectors?

And even *if* this wasn't at all deceptive, I don't see why you are siding against the OP. EVE is, in my opinion, a better place for the having of limited and rare items.

Yes. This separates it from the theatrical release and the DC (both in the cut and in the extras).

Yup: it wasn't the same colour as the normal shirt.

That it was different from the normal shirt.

Can't tell, since no-one has been able to produce the original offer.

I'm siding against the OP because he's being silly by complaining about the availability of something he got for free.

Whatever. The answer remains the same.

No, it makes it special in the same way as every other special edition: by not being like the normal model(s).

Anyway, the questions remain: what's the actual item called, and what was actually said in the original offer?

Ok, I think at this point my point has been clearly made, but for some reason you still want to disagree with me. I don't know why, but if you're just going to say "the answer remains the same", I suspect you want to leave it at that. And so I will say: you have failed to give even a plausible way in which it is a "special edition" as opposed to "just like every other item". According to your reasoning, I'd need to think that ALL the new NEX items are "special editions", since they all differ in colour from the "normal" (and I'd be interested to know which item you consider to be the "normal" one). Perhaps they are special in just the same way that our mum always tells us we are "special". That is, "special" like everyone else.

I agree with you in one regard though - the wording of the original offer would be important. My attempts to google and find it have failed.

I'd think you were crazy if you spent 200$ on a REAL shirt..........

I think F'd in the A is far more a fitting way to say it.

Did Hilmar kiss you on the back of the neck at least?

I think its a silly move by CCP. Certainly others will think twice in regards to purchasing items at the higher end of the spectrum.

If you purchase a product like mentioned Mercedez, if they depreciate the car themselves by a factor of 100,000 by reducing the price then naturally consumers are going to be angry. Tangible or virtual, the same could be said about software which is purchased on your PC.

If a games company sold all their games at £40 and then after 3-6 months reduced the price to 4p, customers will think why should I purchase at the higher price initially, i'll wait till the price is reduced. So by decreasing the price they decrease future initial demand for products.

im starting to see this sort of thing in a lot of games.

i have to wonder if we are not giving enough to support PC game devs. they actually have to do this stuff, i think, especially in todays economy. I do know that there is more money in console gaming, so i think people should not be so harsh to the op, because, without that sort of investment from PC gamers, i think the money would have to come from the general playerbase or elsewhere. rather than laugh at those who wish for cosmetic differences for a bit of real money investment. you should really support him in this because they (game developers) should hold their end of the bargain on exclusive "money injection" payments like that. its not like its pay to win (the shirt, not the plex), so thats why exclusive vanity items should be kept exclusive. their value is in their vanity.

as a gaming consumer myself, i have made a few mistakes, mostly pre order mistakes, for that snazzy pre order item. i wish i could take it back and have saved the money or that things were more of an official stance than vague small print that you never know if they will devalue your item too soon.