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Trader Lilly
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-25 18:25:13 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
Patchnotes are saying that they rerolled the 10% payment nerf for incursions but actually they did not... they betray the poor incursion runners by 1%

Before the nerf the max payout in high sec was 10.5 Million... they nerfed that down to 9.45m which is 90% of 10.5m.

x * 0.9

now to reroll that nerf this is what they used.

x*1.1

which ends up in a payment of 10.395 million

Here is the correct formula...

(x / 90) * 100

No need to say thanks though.. just fix it.

Edit: Title is changed for this topic. Personal attacks to CCP staff removed. Please be constructive while posting, without insulting dev team - ISD Stensson
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-25 18:32:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
Trader Lilly wrote:
Patchnotes are saying that they rerolled the 10% payment nerf for incursions but actually they did not... they betray the poor incursion runners by 1%

Before the nerf the max payout in high sec was 10.5 Million... they nerfed that down to 9.45m which is 90% of 10.5m.

x * 0.9

now to reroll that nerf this is what they used.

x*1.1

which ends up in a payment of 10.395 million

Here is the correct formula...

(x / 90) * 100

No need to say thanks though.. just fix it.


I'm a programmer and just about failed my Data Structures course. They'll take any burnout these days.

Edit: Quoting is changed to reflect current version of the post - ISD Stensson
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#3 - 2012-06-25 18:36:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
Trader Lilly wrote:
Patchnotes are saying that they rerolled the 10% payment nerf for incursions but actually they did not... they betray the poor incursion runners by 1%

Before the nerf the max payout in high sec was 10.5 Million... they nerfed that down to 9.45m which is 90% of 10.5m.

x * 0.9

now to reroll that nerf this is what they used.

x*1.1

which ends up in a payment of 10.395 million

Here is the correct formula...

(x / 90) * 100

No need to say thanks though.. just fix it.


Bug report, go!

In other news: nobody really cares.

Edit: Quoting is changed to reflect current version of the post - ISD Stensson

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Kieron VonDeux
#4 - 2012-06-25 18:39:48 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Bug report, go!

In other news: nobody really cares.


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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-06-25 18:45:34 UTC
Oh hey, I'll file this under stuff no one gives a flick about. Thanks for the info dude.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#6 - 2012-06-25 18:47:26 UTC
Remember when they settled on the ISK Estimated value destroyed: LP ratio and the Estimated Value formula?

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#7 - 2012-06-25 18:47:57 UTC
CCP has been shockingly bad at game design since the beginning. It took years to get EVE to the point where it was actually playable to begin with. It's hardly unexpected that they'd fail at simple things like basic math when they never test anything, can't be bothered to fix the bugs that people point out and have legendary levels of unfounded overconfidence in everything they do.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-06-25 19:00:39 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Blizzard has been shockingly bad at game design since the beginning. It took years to get WoW to the point where it was actually playable to begin with. It's hardly unexpected that they'd fail at simple things like basic math when they never test anything, can't be bothered to fix the bugs that people point out and have legendary levels of unfounded overconfidence in everything they do.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#9 - 2012-06-25 19:03:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
CCP has been shockingly bad at game design since the beginning. It took years to get EVE to the point where it was actually playable to begin with. It's hardly unexpected that they'd fail at simple things like basic math when they never test anything, can't be bothered to fix the bugs that people point out and have legendary levels of unfounded overconfidence in everything they do.

I must admit at times I wonder why CCP hasn't gone out of business, then I see games like star trek online and remember that whilst CCP are pretty shockingly bad, theyre marginally less bad than that. Besides, their heart is in the right place.

CCP's one redeeming feature is that, whilst coming close at times, they have never yet given in to pay to win or theme park MMO rubbish. For me, this where every other space MMO fails.

Edit: Please refrain from rumoring - ISD Stensson

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#10 - 2012-06-25 19:03:51 UTC
Trader Lilly wrote:
Patchnotes are saying that they rerolled the 10% payment nerf for incursions but actually they did not... they betray the poor incursion runners by 1%

Before the nerf the max payout in high sec was 10.5 Million... they nerfed that down to 9.45m which is 90% of 10.5m.

x * 0.9

now to reroll that nerf this is what they used.

x*1.1

which ends up in a payment of 10.395 million

Here is the correct formula...

(x / 90) * 100

No need to say thanks though.. just fix it.

Edit: Title is changed for this topic. Personal attacks to CCP staff removed. Please be constructive while posting, without insulting dev team - ISD Stensson


I think most of the programmers in 1970-2000 were math majors who then retired and now we got people who can't even understand what is a pointer and have to resort to C#, python, etc.
Trader Lilly
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-06-25 19:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
Edit: Please refrain from discussing moderation - ISD Stensson
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2012-06-25 19:08:46 UTC
for(tail = buffer; head < tail--; head++) { *buffer = *tail; *tail = *head; *head = *buffer; } *buffer = '\0';

Pff. Pointers.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2012-06-25 19:12:13 UTC
Tippia wrote:
for(tail = buffer; head < tail--; head++) { *buffer = *tail; *tail = *head; *head = *buffer; } *buffer = '\0';

Pff. Pointers.


I thought it was the stick they use to point out the numbers and letters on a blackboardOops
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#14 - 2012-06-25 19:19:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
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Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-06-25 19:19:56 UTC
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Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-06-25 19:20:31 UTC
Trader Lilly wrote:

"CCP has been shockingly bad at game design since the beginning."


You're lucky CCP wont ever hire me as a Dev. I'm too irrational and take things way too personally. I'd [devmagic] your all your characters and clones to some wormhole without probes, have wormhole entrances pop up continually as a tease and if you manage to slow boat to one, it'd send you back into the same wormhole, Matrix train station style.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#17 - 2012-06-25 19:26:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
Edit: Please refrain from discussing moderation - ISD Stensson

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Solhild
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-06-25 20:09:44 UTC
Posting in a ban thread
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#19 - 2012-06-25 20:17:18 UTC
Trader Lilly wrote:
Patchnotes are saying that they rerolled the 10% payment nerf for incursions but actually they did not... they betray the poor incursion runners by 1%

Before the nerf the max payout in high sec was 10.5 Million... they nerfed that down to 9.45m which is 90% of 10.5m.

x * 0.9

now to reroll that nerf this is what they used.

x*1.1

which ends up in a payment of 10.395 million

Here is the correct formula...

(x / 90) * 100

No need to say thanks though.. just fix it.

Edit: Title is changed for this topic. Personal attacks to CCP staff removed. Please be constructive while posting, without insulting dev team - ISD Stensson

Maybe some poor intern was just told "increase payouts by 10%" so he that's exactly what he did. Though if that 105 thousand isk bothers you that much I'll give you it myself if it'll shut you up P

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#20 - 2012-06-25 20:29:21 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
Trader Lilly wrote:
Patchnotes are saying that they rerolled the 10% payment nerf for incursions but actually they did not... they betray the poor incursion runners by 1%

Before the nerf the max payout in high sec was 10.5 Million... they nerfed that down to 9.45m which is 90% of 10.5m.

x * 0.9

now to reroll that nerf this is what they used.

x*1.1

which ends up in a payment of 10.395 million

Here is the correct formula...

(x / 90) * 100

No need to say thanks though.. just fix it.

Edit: Title is changed for this topic. Personal attacks to CCP staff removed. Please be constructive while posting, without insulting dev team - ISD Stensson

Maybe some poor intern was just told "increase payouts by 10%" so he that's exactly what he did. Though if that 105 thousand isk bothers you that much I'll give you it myself if it'll shut you up P


I think the point is math errors have no place in programming... PERIOD
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