Warfare & Tactics

FW is a farming playground for allmost everyone in eve.

The idea was to enforce PVP fight but this is FARMFEST.


PLEASE CCP MAKE MANDATORY KILLING ALL NPC IN PLEX TO COMPLETING IT.

THX.

+1

CCP you guys still have some hours till monday downtime...DO IT!

No, NPC's must be killed. Otherwise the plex is useless for PVP and is purely being use to farm.

It doesnt matter if it takes 20 minutes or 5 minutes to defend a plex. Id rather be forced to kill a few NPC's to ready the plex for pvp than i would be forced to sit in a plex for even 1 minute of absolutely nothing just to undo someones work who is now off farming another plex while i do nothing but wait for whatever time.

It also rationalises the ships being used and the sheer amount of low-sp farm alts. Its the first and most important step to balancing FW at this moment.

Also, your profile is hilarious coming from someone who hardly pvps at all and looks a lot like a farming alt. Begging CCP to keep you on the gravy train is pretty pathetic. Just about all yout losses were in a plex. No doubt you were running majors with those rifters lol.

No. This would make it a 5 minute exercise to counter what someone spent 20 minutes achieving.

This means if somoene has a 5 minute lull in offensive plexing (reshipping), the defenders can undo all of their work.

I love how it comes from a Minmitar pilot - lets change mechanics to ensure we keep all of our systems!!!!

Either way, it is still a stupid idea as somone who offensively plexes and almost gets the timer to 0 gets engaged in PvP and loses, has to fly away to reship and in the 5 minutes it takes to get back, finds that the timer is not 5 minutes less than when they left but rather 20 minutes less and therefore close to being closed for the defender.
Yeah - THAT is a really good mechanic...

guys you did go off topic so fast.

Make killing all npc in plex MUST to finish it,thx.

Back to topic

yeah... and caldari are swarmed by minnie alts because amarr doesnt hold enough systems. so please whine else where about alt plexers but we are able to keep there impact to a minimum. so take your whining elsewhere.

I did think in same way as you,but seem we allready have alts and just use one of slots to farm alt creation.
So NO there is no more alts and more acounts,just same old same old alt acounts but new slots.



So something else is hapening here,for some dark reson CCP wants that every palyer in this game place his alt in FW .

CCP please make killing all npc in FW plex a MUST to complete it.

THX

cough ... nobodys looking right?

this gallente scum is right .... cough ;)

Yeah, let's make FW "less like nullsec" by removing the single distinguishing feature of the FW combat environment. Instead of entering a system alone or in a loose gang and immediately finding any enemies in ship-restricted deadspace pockets marked by system-visible beacons, we can "be less like nullsec" and blob up according to reinforcement timers, or set up camps, or roam around in hopes that either A) we'll run into someone else roaming around or B) that a fleet will form up to counter us, just for that fleet's funsies. Let's see a target on dscan and warp around to likely celestials while he does the same thing looking for us, until we both get frustrated and one of us proposes a meeting at the star. Let's enter a system, run the on-board scanner, and hope to find a wartarget carebearing in normal random cosmic anomalies that are just as attractive to neutrals and co-militia -- this, to be "less like nullsec".

If all you want is a 24/7 wardec, let me remind you: you don't live in highsec, so you don't ******* need one. You can shoot anyone you want. Your corp being in the militia just gives you 1) a special form of income, 2) a heavy discouragement from shooting a whole lot of people that you otherwise could shoot, and 3) frigates as tacklers on lowsec gates. Under the new FW, a day-old alt is good enough for #1, so you no longer need to be in the militia for that. #2 you may regard as more of a burden than a feature. If #3 is so important, can I introduce you to nullsec, the place you'd like FW to be "less like"? A whole lot of nullsec is owned by NPC factions and thus is excluded from that "fail sov mechanic", by the way. Actually, if you do want to make FW "less like nullsec" by removing plexes, I bet you'll feel right at home in NPC null. You can form a fleet and roam around and get countered; you can find people carebearing at anomalies; you can set up camps (really good camps, with bubbles), and you can fight around reinforcement timers. There are even obvious centres of carebearing in NPC null -- just look at -A- carebearing in G-ME2K; all you'd have to do is camp that one gate whenever you want a fight.

Alternatively, if you want to enjoy FW's unique environment without having to care about it, you can just advocate for

1. the end of station lockouts,

2. plex fixes/reward nerfs to clear out the farmers,

3. impact-of-warzone-control nerfs so that you don't have to care about how the war is going,

4. system upgrades continuing to not really matter for individual systems so that you won't care when you lose yours.

In order of impact. Just #1 would let you stick your head in the sand. Also, whereas FW plexes are definitely already not in nullsec, I seem to recall a whole lot of people saying that the opposite of #1 was a great idea because that was how nullsec worked...