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FIX EVE Remove PVP

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-06-25 12:58:37 UTC
Lexmana
#22 - 2012-06-25 13:00:56 UTC
Singoth wrote:
That survey was also taken by just 2400 people.
I'd be more impressed if it was over 50,000.

2400 is good enough actually. But ≈2% response rate is not.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#23 - 2012-06-25 13:06:42 UTC
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
where did you get that 25% figure


From Here.

Fifth Chart.


The fifth chart asks the main reason people subscribe. Only one reason, and 25% said the main reason is pvp. However, that does not mean it is people's only reason. I for one select the sci fi/space mmo option. However, while playing eve my main fun and purpose is pvp. So basically, if there was no pvp I would gwt bored, settle on another mmo that is sci fi based. If eve also turned into a swords and sorcery style mmo, I would go elsewhere.

Your assumption, however, that those 25% are the only ones enjoying pvp is foolish. There are many out there, like myself, who hwho selected another main reason, but pvp is our 2nd or 3rd.

In other words, don't attempt to force meaning to statistics that do not apply.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#24 - 2012-06-25 13:13:49 UTC
"heh"

0/10

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]

Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#25 - 2012-06-25 13:17:52 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
where did you get that 25% figure


From Here.

Fifth Chart.


The fifth chart asks the main reason people subscribe. Only one reason, and 25% said the main reason is pvp. However, that does not mean it is people's only reason. I for one select the sci fi/space mmo option. However, while playing eve my main fun and purpose is pvp. So basically, if there was no pvp I would gwt bored, settle on another mmo that is sci fi based. If eve also turned into a swords and sorcery style mmo, I would go elsewhere.

Your assumption, however, that those 25% are the only ones enjoying pvp is foolish. There are many out there, like myself, who hwho selected another main reason, but pvp is our 2nd or 3rd.

In other words, don't attempt to force meaning to statistics that do not apply.


I wasn't. The OP was quoting it. However, if PvP is the main reason you play, you should indicate such. What is sad is that none of the reasons that ranked higher than PvP are even good reasons...I mean, 54% play it because it's a MMO game...? Roll

Personally though, I think if the result had been 75% for PvP, people would be creating reasons as to why it is accurate and how it is only indicative of how Eve is PvP-centric. Whatever, like everything else, you can believe what you want and no one can convince you otherwise, so there is no point in arguing about it.

John Hancock

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#26 - 2012-06-25 13:19:26 UTC
Dumb idea and a troll thread, nuff said.

Tal

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#27 - 2012-06-25 13:22:00 UTC
OP, C U Next Tuesday

Damn nature, you scary!

Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp
#28 - 2012-06-25 13:33:32 UTC
Even if the 25% number is correct, it's still the wrong conclusion. Remove the 75% who don't want to PVP would be the right conclusion. Cool
Geertruida Zelle
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-06-25 13:36:51 UTC
TravisWB wrote:
What? like less than 25% of the Eve players are interested in PVP at all and yet "this game is all about PVP".

Major fail in there somewhere.





No one's making you play, Go play X3 instead if you don't like it

Jamagh
Grand Violations
#30 - 2012-06-25 13:39:27 UTC
*sigh* I am a high sec carebear. My main is a miner. That is what I do. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. Seriously. As much as this would be nice not having to worry about getting ganked when I am mining... to support the people that PVP, getting rid of PVP would make mining... well... worthless. Without people losing ships, no one would buy the minerals that I mine. Therefore.. I would not make any money.

To be honest it is not about making money for me. It is just about relaxing and taking my mind off the stress of my life. Had a bad day at work, relax in the belt. We all do things that we consider fun. For some, that is PVP. Go have fun, mine, mission, or PVP.

"Please stop reopening silly rumor threads."  CCP Navigator.

Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-06-25 13:43:24 UTC
Jaffster wrote:
Here I go, posting about being podded,
In my bling hauler, heavily modded,
I cried so hard, the nasty men ganked me,
So I'll post on the forums, then they'll see,

Those nasty nasty horrible players,
Oh my lord, hear my prayers,
Remove PVP from Eve, I beg upon thy,
HEAR MY SAD EMO CRY
The ADF touch?Blink

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#32 - 2012-06-25 13:44:27 UTC
Accvording to a CCP survey

http://eve-files.com/dl/255173

Most players somewhat like or very much like PvP.

The same is true for mining.

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Lexmana
#33 - 2012-06-25 13:51:44 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Accvording to a CCP survey

http://eve-files.com/dl/255173

Most players somewhat like or very much like PvP.

The same is true for mining.

This calls for a short summary for all that don't like to follow links. In that survey PVP was the most "liked activity" of all (including missioning, mining, incursions, exploration etc) with a ≈75% approval. Only 10% of EVE players disliked PvP and 30% disliked mission running.
Xuse Senna
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#34 - 2012-06-25 13:58:19 UTC
I am the 24%!

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7501/mindgamesceptionfinaldr.jpg

GreenSeed
#35 - 2012-06-25 14:03:50 UTC
go back to wow
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#36 - 2012-06-25 14:16:58 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
This must be a troll thread, remove pvp and eve dies.

So you know.

Mining is PVP
blowing s-**** up is PVP
Market trading is PVP
Corp competition is PVP

The only thing that isn't PVP is missioning, so are you saying that 75% players do nothing but mission in this game?

..

Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#37 - 2012-06-25 14:20:24 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
Accvording to a CCP survey

http://eve-files.com/dl/255173

Most players somewhat like or very much like PvP.

The same is true for mining.

This calls for a short summary for all that don't like to follow links. In that survey PVP was the most "liked activity" of all (including missioning, mining, incursions, exploration etc) with a ≈75% approval. Only 10% of EVE players disliked PvP and 30% disliked mission running.


Also there are 2 definitions used by the eve community for "PvP':

1) Any competitive interaction between players

2) Space combat

Even CCP's survey did not say which definition they intended. It may be the 10% who said they disliked it used the narrow definition. Many who dislike space combat PvP do like the market, exploration and such. Then those players who understand the full PvP definition, like some aspects of it, selected a "Like" option on the survey.

In other words, the survey really does not tell us how many players like PvP space combat.

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stoicfaux
#38 - 2012-06-25 14:24:29 UTC
Learn to read statistics!

~50% of players play solo. ~50% of people subscribed because of the player driven economy. Ergo, ~50% of the player base are bots engaged in RMT.

Once you arrive at the conclusion, you then realize that the survey results need to be normalized to exclude the RMT bots. Meaning, the 25% of the player base interested in PvP translates into "50% of the non-botting population is interested in PvP."


Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

BigWolf Omega
Bazinga Labs
#39 - 2012-06-25 14:26:56 UTC  |  Edited by: BigWolf Omega
Jamagh wrote:
*sigh* I am a high sec carebear. My main is a miner. That is what I do. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. Seriously. As much as this would be nice not having to worry about getting ganked when I am mining... to support the people that PVP, getting rid of PVP would make mining... well... worthless. Without people losing ships, no one would buy the minerals that I mine. Therefore.. I would not make any money.

To be honest it is not about making money for me. It is just about relaxing and taking my mind off the stress of my life. Had a bad day at work, relax in the belt. We all do things that we consider fun. For some, that is PVP. Go have fun, mine, mission, or PVP.


Truth, with no ships getting blown up, ships and mods will stop being brought once you have what you want
If you want to build without worry of dying, I hear MineCraft is good for that

But then, a survey of 2,400 is probably as useful as these 'national surveys' that ask 1,000 people randomly off the street which is suppose to tell what a nation of millions is feeling
Tri Vetra
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-06-25 14:27:44 UTC
barack HU$$EIN obama,
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