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The Dead of Insurance...
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#41 - 2011-10-07 19:53:39 UTC
well you don't even know what you're talking about I don't see how I'd explain what I'm talking about

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#42 - 2011-10-07 19:53:40 UTC
Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry"
Milamara
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2011-10-07 19:54:16 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Except that you jumped to the conclusion I do it for profit. Killing 6 month old BS pilots who are in their first ever BS and ground their way through 3 hours a day of level 3 missions for 2 and a half months to fly the big flash toy is way way more satisfying. Remove insurance and each one of these will be a probable quit eve for ever scenario. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be fantastic.

I didn't assume you'd do it for profit, I assumed you do it to grief, and my point is that it would be no change for mission runners either which way. You specifically stated their "best pve" fits, not their "worst tech 1 fits".

Either way, mission runners make consistently more ISK than any other activity in EVE, they will not mind the loss of a tech 1 fitted or a faction fitted whether there is insurance or not.

Not having insurance will hurt PvP types orders of magnitude more than PvE types.

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Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2011-10-07 19:54:57 UTC
Teamosil wrote:
exploit.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2011-10-07 19:55:59 UTC
I'm going to have a stroke soon ...
Jesus monkey Christ , people showing new levels of stupidity.

Loud and clear...
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2011-10-07 19:56:14 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry"


i suppose it is sort of pointless to insult someone of your intelligence with polysyllabic words

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2011-10-07 19:56:31 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry"


Aren't you just adorable.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2011-10-07 19:57:32 UTC
you idea dumb

you dumb

but me like idea you idea make me more big

me like me more big

me stomp

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#49 - 2011-10-07 19:57:45 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry"


i suppose it is sort of pointless to insult someone of your intelligence with polysyllabic words


oooh the Tears... love it so much
Milamara
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2011-10-07 19:57:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Milamara
Feligast wrote:
Removing insurance? Hell yes. Those mining barge pilots don't deserve it anyways.

Keep up the display of how little you know about EVE mechanics. Insurance only covers a tiny fraction of what a Hulk or Mack actually cost which is precisely why ganking those makes any sense in the first place.

Also, the new forums should really have an option to ignore posts by corp & alliance.

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Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2011-10-07 19:58:06 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
you idea dumb

you dumb

me like idea you idea make me more big

too much words , try something like...

Hurr or derp.

Loud and clear...
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#52 - 2011-10-07 19:58:21 UTC
Feligast wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry"


Aren't you just adorable.


another goons for tear party =)
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2011-10-07 19:58:32 UTC
Milamara wrote:
Feligast wrote:
Removing insurance? Hell yes. Those mining barge pilots don't deserve it anyways.

Keep up the display of how little you know about EVE mechanics. Insurance only covers a tiny fraction of what a Hulk or Mack actually cost which is precisely why ganking those makes any sense in the first place.


hulks and macks aren't mining barges

great display of what you know about eve mechanics

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2011-10-07 19:59:36 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Feligast wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry"


Aren't you just adorable.


another goons for tear party =)


<3
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#55 - 2011-10-07 20:02:16 UTC
Someone once told me EVE is a dark, harsh, unforgiving place.

Well, it's certainly dark in places. One out of three isn't bad as marketing hype goes, I suppose.

Mr Epeen Cool
jitabotter
Good Time Family Band Solution
#56 - 2011-10-07 20:03:10 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
i suppose it is sort of pointless to insult someone of your intelligence with polysyllabic words


I hate to tell you, but you're a whole lot less bright than you think you are... You generally seem to be struggling with coming up with arguments to defend your position and you are clearly not grasping the arguments other people are making... You keep blurting out arguments that don't add up, then abandoning them when people debunk them. Not exactly the characteristics of the brain trust you seem to think of yourself as...
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#57 - 2011-10-07 20:04:51 UTC
jitabotter wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
i suppose it is sort of pointless to insult someone of your intelligence with polysyllabic words


I hate to tell you, but you're a whole lot less bright than you think you are... You generally seem to be struggling with coming up with arguments to defend your position and you are clearly not grasping the arguments other people are making... You keep blurting out arguments that don't add up, then abandoning them when people debunk them. Not exactly the characteristics of the brain trust you seem to think of yourself as...


ahahahahahahahahahahaha


go back to grade school child

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#58 - 2011-10-07 20:05:56 UTC
this isn't a debate or discussion this is me laughing at your stupidity

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#59 - 2011-10-07 20:09:32 UTC
if there ever comes a point when i need worthless pubbie jitabotters opinion on what the effect of a change to eve mechanics would be i will be too busy searching for a gun to end my life with the last shreads of my brain intact

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
#60 - 2011-10-07 20:10:43 UTC
Feligast wrote:
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


It's when a player is able to gain an advantage, or avoid a disadvantage, by using some quirk in the game mechanics in a way it wasn't intended to be used. IMO suicide ganking a cheaper ship in an expensive ship that you've fitted so that the insurance payout will basically alleviate the death penalty is an exploit. Frankly, I don't think it's a huge deal. My point in my post was that insurance should be left as is, except for maybe closing that loophole. If they think that needs to be closed, that would be fine by me, but I would oppose getting rid of insurance across the board, which is what this thread is about..