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Possible balanced solution to *excessive* suicide ganking

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The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-10-07 19:07:59 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
i like the insurance change because it means only we, the rich, can gank

and you'll expect it even less and cry about it even more


yeah i'm completely comfortable with removing insurance from concord losses, it will only make our victims more confused because people in hisec can literally only conceive of motivations relating to isk

~hi~
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-10-07 19:08:33 UTC
guys guys guys its about money wait why are they still killing us they're not making a profit anymore :downs:

~hi~
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-10-07 19:10:27 UTC
You do realize they take a big standing hit for doing this and it takes a bit of time ratting in low sec to even be able to fly in high sec again right.... Not to mention that EVE is a game based on Risk / Reward. So if you are flying something you aren't willing to lose. I suggest you don't fly it.

Something clever
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#24 - 2011-10-07 19:12:10 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
it will only make our victims more confused because people in hisec can literally only conceive of motivations relating to isk


You don't have to clarify something is literal when it can be taken no other way.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Dramaticus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2011-10-07 19:12:24 UTC
im a ******* gozillionaire ill eat 40m losses all day long

The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal

The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-10-07 19:15:51 UTC
You mean we can buy insurance and get money back, when we gank someone?

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-10-07 19:18:53 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
0August0 wrote:
I'd like to see the Ganker automatically relocated to the nearest low security system.


i agree gankers are mean i can't handle mean


Yeah. Stoopid Gooons! LEAVE THE BOTS ALONE!

:pubbie tears:
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2011-10-07 19:19:33 UTC
Digital Messiah wrote:
You do realize they take a big standing hit for doing this and it takes a bit of time ratting in low sec to even be able to fly in high sec again right....


Not exactly. ;)
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2011-10-07 19:22:59 UTC
hahaha ratting in low sec

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2011-10-07 19:23:09 UTC
wait

hahahahaha ratting

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#31 - 2011-10-07 19:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Zymurgist
I never tire of seeing people unironically complain that getting insurance is "unfair" or "imbalanced" when they get an infinite supply of omnipotent NPC buddies who will absolutely 100% kill anyone who ****s with them.

You see people in hi-sec are entitled to be safe because

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2011-10-07 19:37:56 UTC
Because what? Entitled to be safe because what? OMG now we'll never know.


But seriously do you think taking away insurance pay outs is going to stop suicide ganking? I could afford to suicide gank without insurance and I'm not even rich in EVE standards.

It just seems like a dumb thing to whine about. Sure taking away insurance makes sense. Expecting the gankings to stop or slow down does not.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2011-10-07 19:44:58 UTC
you know what makes sense about eve insurance?

nothing

"hmm let me sell you insurance on this battleship at prices that ensure I lose money, and if you forgot to buy insurance? well, we'll just give you some free money"

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Zleon Leigh
#34 - 2011-10-07 19:53:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zleon Leigh
Malcanis wrote:
I never tire of seeing people unironically complain that getting insurance is "unfair" or "imbalanced" when they get an infinite supply of omnipotent NPC buddies who will absolutely 100% kill anyone who fucks with them.

You see people in hi-sec are entitled to be safe because



Hmmm - did the filters get turned off?


Concord should have a kill board....

Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day

PvP's latest  incentive program ** Unified Inventory **  'Cause you gotta kill something after trying to use it
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2011-10-07 19:54:17 UTC
what do supersonic jets have to do with anything

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#36 - 2011-10-07 19:57:03 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
what do supersonic jets have to do with anything


Everything, man, everything.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Tetragammatron Alpha
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2011-10-07 20:16:17 UTC
Seems goonNoob tears made CCP nerf super caps so perhaps pubbie tears will make CCP nerf suicide ganking??
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2011-10-07 20:18:19 UTC
csm chairman the mittani will get right on communicating your concerns

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2011-10-07 21:07:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Nephilius
Zenith Intaki wrote:
Just make it so that outlaws can't activate any gates inside high sec and make concord spawn and pod outlaws.

There is no reason why outlaws can travel through lowsec in pod or in fast aligning ship.

I don't have any problem with suicide ganking when ganker has positive sec status. But being able to do continous ganks without any real penalty is just bad for the game.


This is what needs to happen. If your sec status is too low for a hisec system, you simply cannot enter that system. You wanna go in, work your secstat back up. It won't stop suicide ganking, but it'll make it where they have a consequence for doing it too often.

Personally, positive secstat should go to 10, I never understood why it only goes to +5.
"If."
The Apostle
Doomheim
#40 - 2011-10-07 21:10:29 UTC
Hey y'all. Easy fixed.

If Concord is called in, an attendance fee is charged to the ganker/s account and the gankee get's the cash.

THAT would make ganking fun, for BOTH parties.

Bah. Forget it. Can't have Win/Win in Eve.

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