Intergalactic Summit

I'm quite amazed no capsuleer posted an opinion about this yet.

Some time ago agents of Goonswarm infiltrated the 24th Crusade and the Tribal Liberation Force and started to work on a scheme to scam the sponsoring governments. They found a weakness in the bureaucratic procedures of the TLF proceeded to exploit it.

Agents of the TLF approved handouts of huge loyalty rewards to these Goonswarm agents. The loyalty rewards bestowed upon these scammers dwarfed the loyalty shown to known TLF heroes like Sasawong. The Republic simply signed over trillions of isk of rewards to the Goonswarm infiltrators without conducting any investigation.

The infiltrators managed to stay out of sight of their fellow capsuleers simply because the Republic didn't advertise that a few capsuleers were getting these huge loyalty rewards. Their militia ranks weren't raised, in fact, most TLF or 24th Crusade militia members were oblivious to their existence because the inflitrators didn't make any meaningful contribution to the war, like attacking or defending installations.

Their manipulations did allow for other capsuleers employed by the TLF to also fill their pockets as they cashed in on their loyalty rewards. Countless additional billions were extracted from Republic coffers and the skies swarmed with Fleet Issue Stabbers-class cruisers.

The amount of wealth extracted is so large that it would probably be enough to finance the rebuilding of the fleet lost to Empress Jamyl. Will the Republic ever recover from this financial bloodletting, and how did TLF bureaucrats let it go this far? One would expect at least some questions to be asked when complete unknowns get these amount of loyalty rewards.

Also I would expect those loyal to the Republic to consider these infiltrators and Goonswarm to be public enemy number one to for some time to come. Goonswarm inflicted more fiscal damage to the Republic than years of struggle in the low-sec regions cost them. I would also expect the loyalist to return some of the gains they themselves received as a result of the manipulation of the TLF reward system.

As I have understood it, the Star Fraction is already in a mutual war with Goonswarm (over other reasons), and some of the TLF organizations are already aiding them in this conflict. Are the other Republic loyalist parties no outraged by this Goonswarm coup? Are there no war-decs or public declarations of hostility being handed out? Do the TLF militia member organizations approve of this attempt to bite off and swallow hole the hand that feeds them?

Why is everyone staying silent on this scam which is of a size that it has galaxy-wide repercussions? Why do capsuleers on the Summit prefer to report on small issues like prison escapes and attempted coverups? Have we become this small-minded?

If the Republic was stupid enough to give them all that ISK without even doing basic security checks then they deserve what they got... Maybe the Amarrians have a point when they say we would be better off being managed by them.

Of course I dont really believe that but certainly The Republic has shown itself to be inept and unworthy of Minmatar Capsuleer support - we continue the struggle on our own.

As for the Goons they simply took advantage of our government's ineptitude and demonstrated how patheticly weak our 'official' leadership is... They cannot be blamed for that...

I'd be amazed if this does not break at least one of the rules that were set for these wars. Then again, CONCORD is struggling with finding efficient ways to reward capsuleers for participating in certain conflicts without some loopholes in the system. But if rules were broken, than consequenses for the offenders would or should follow.

The Star Fraction war against The Goonswarm Federation currently involves 50 allied corporations and alliances who have joined the fight against Goon Imperialism and have dealt a good number of starship kills over the last few weeks. Goonswarm is currently losing the war by about 14b isk to 1.5b and 5-1 ratio of hulls destroyed in space - and one particularly succulent destruction of a fully-laden moon-mineral jump freighter on its way to the Jita market.

Sadly these numbers are utterly insignificant in contrast to the sums looted by infilration of the TLF, 24th Crusade and (to a lesser degree) State Protectorate agencies.

Worse yet, the defense coalition we have assembled has been effectively outlawed by the Concord Assembly and will be dissolved in 2 weeks time when the first new "war tax" payment is demanded of the Star Fraction alliance wallet. Concord is intending to charge the Star Fraction an estimated 10 Sextillian ISK to maintain our 50 allies in a state of war against Goonswarm in a recurring payment for every 2 weeks.

This sum of money far exceeds the total estimated worth of New Eden, so cannot be seen in any other terms as Concord Assembly taking steps to protect The Goonswarm Federation from hisec war consequences.

And once the Star Fraction coalition against Goonswarm is removed there will be no effective way for hisec fighters to strike back against the largest capsuleer power in New Eden (which is now also unquestionably the richest and best connected).

We obviously condemn the cowardice of Concord Officials involved in this decision. Presumably the bribes were immense.

Well that would involve the creation of an additional 50 corporations with attendant personnel to ensure said alliance was appropriately-insured against infiltration and destruction by the Band of Brothers/Ushra'khan alliance theft/takeover mechanic.

The concord registration fees of these additional "corp leaders" required for a purely admin role would exceed eight billion isk per month in pilot dues - this would increase the overall defensive costs of the coalition to 1b ISK + 8.2b isk per month (registration overhead + alliance maintenance fees) to counter the 50m isk (per week) that GoonSwarm Federation currently pay to maintain the outgoing war (while nonetheless continuing to be outnumbered on registered capsuleer headcount by around 10-1 against.)

(I can see why you might prefer the fee structure of the conflict to switch to 180x in Goonswarm's Favour - but really, do you think you are scamming the New Pilot recruitment channel here?)

Of course concord could "fix" the vulnerability of formal alliance structures but then how would GoonSwarm Federation ever handle the disband of the next Band of Brothers? In short though, your proposal makes absolutely no fiscal sense.



As I've had the opportunity to endlessly remind your Goonish brethen elsewhere. Your leader Mittani declared this war with the sole declared purpose of well ... killing me. That puts the onus on prosecuting said war on the aggressor and means your troops are obligated to bring the fight to me, rather than simply sitting on moon-mineral-engorged backsides and expect to have all the defensive benefits of a vast nullsec coalition to stack the deck.

Any corporate or alliance leader who has declared a war against a hated foe and then refused to make the slightest effort to prosecute said war (instead wriggling and complaining and making airy remarks about how the target should bring themselves to the lazy sights of a nullsec fortress) is habitually-mocked on the Intergalactic summit.

That such an embarrassment is compounded by the shameful Concord decision to obliterate the defensive coalition facing you after a mere week of warfare (that Goonswarm soundly lost) simply makes matters look worst for your absentee leader.

When I declare a war against a foe I am at the front lines fighting it - not several thousand light years away begging concord to save me from the hisec uprising that is ambushing my jump freighters and completely humiliating my comrades at every turn.

It is a lesson you could do well to learn.

whereas you used mercifully few to surrender the debate. Better luck next time.

Sometimes you seem to forget that I am terrorist. Given the opportunity I would happily put a burst of flechette-rounds through your face and leave your bloody corpse as warning to tyrants who underestimate the will to murder in the human condition. You embody everything I despise. Its probably fortunate your cowardice keeps you a very long way from the places I make my home or you'd face the mockery of your leader on the lonely flight back to 0.0 in your capsule.

Civility has no virtue uncoupled from any notion of self respect.

And you seem to have forgotten that you address Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com, the intrepid Sky Captain of Your Heart, Space Friend to All, and Goodposter Extraordinaire of the Right-Honourable GoonSwarm Federation of Space Planets. I will gladly present you the opportunity match your actions to your words, and I shall handily defeat you in space just as surely as you will make a grandiose post claiming to have won despite losing.

Name the terms of engagement.

I stopped reading after the first sentence, for fear that I might intrude upon a private fantasy better suited to La Maison.

P.S.—I didn't really stop reading. I just thought it'd be more fun to say that than to call you out on ducking the fight!

Damn, not quite as many as Vaari. Nearly there though!