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The Dead of Insurance...
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Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#1 - 2011-10-07 18:10:01 UTC
Well, i think that without insurance the game gonna be a little bit more fun =)

what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll
Sexy Moped
Polaris Nebulae
#2 - 2011-10-07 18:12:17 UTC
...hhmmmmmm

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2011-10-07 18:12:27 UTC
Nah.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4 - 2011-10-07 18:14:36 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Well, i think that without insurance the game gonna be a little bit more fun =)

what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll


You say that as if it's going to happen.

Did I miss the memo?

Mr Epeen Cool
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#5 - 2011-10-07 18:15:38 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Well, i think that without insurance the game gonna be a little bit more fun =)

what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll


You say that as if it's going to happen.

Did I miss the memo?

Mr Epeen Cool


its just a supposition... let your imagination flow
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6 - 2011-10-07 18:21:53 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Well, i think that without insurance the game gonna be a little bit more fun =)

what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll


You say that as if it's going to happen.

Did I miss the memo?

Mr Epeen Cool


its just a supposition... let your imagination flow


Darn.

I was getting a bit of a chub on having read it.

I guess you see where I stand on the issue from that.

Mr Epeen Cool
mkint
#7 - 2011-10-07 18:21:57 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Well, i think that without insurance the game gonna be a little bit more fun =)

what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll


You say that as if it's going to happen.

Did I miss the memo?

Mr Epeen Cool


its just a supposition... let your imagination flow

You mean like the embarrassing medicine the doctor gives you?

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Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#8 - 2011-10-07 18:23:40 UTC
mkint wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Well, i think that without insurance the game gonna be a little bit more fun =)

what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll


You say that as if it's going to happen.

Did I miss the memo?

Mr Epeen Cool


its just a supposition... let your imagination flow

You mean like the embarrassing medicine the doctor gives you?


are u mad bro ?
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#9 - 2011-10-07 18:29:34 UTC
Yeah I heard about that No insurance

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-07 18:35:23 UTC
hurts small scale pvp, iirc hurts normal capship pvp too, since u can insure a cap and get a lot of it back if u die...
so no.

no insurance for suicide ganks though
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#11 - 2011-10-07 18:39:03 UTC
Haven't lost a ship in about 6 months. I'd hate to think of all the cash I could have wasted on insurance.

Disclaimer: I only pvp in chat boxes/forums Cool

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Mai Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-10-07 18:48:32 UTC
Or just be realistic about it.

Starting the fight (firing first) results in a insurance payout penalty depending on security rating of the system.

Aggressor insurance payout:

1.0 : No insurance payout
0.9 : 20% payout
0.8 : 40% payout
0.7 : 60% payout
0.6 : 80% payout
0.5 and below : No penalty
Milamara
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-07 18:52:03 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll

Your inability to spell "Death" correctly.

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Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#14 - 2011-10-07 18:56:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanilla Twilight
Milamara wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll

Your inability to spell "Death" correctly.


English should die too... since EUA is a failed country and Chine is rising up, maybe mandarim should be the forum's oficial language

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Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#15 - 2011-10-07 18:57:46 UTC
Mai Kusoni wrote:
Or just be realistic about it.

Starting the fight (firing first) results in a insurance payout penalty depending on security rating of the system.

Aggressor insurance payout:

1.0 : No insurance payout
0.9 : 20% payout
0.8 : 40% payout
0.7 : 60% payout
0.6 : 80% payout
0.5 and below : No penalty



nah, no insurance at all. Kill it. HARDER > EASIER
Milamara
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-10-07 19:00:53 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Milamara wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll

Your inability to spell "Death" correctly.


English should die too... since EUA is a failed country and Chine is rising up, maybe mandarim should be the forum's oficial language

So not only do you fail at spelling (not just of the word Death), but you also fail at geopolitical geography. Here's a hint, EUA isn't a country.

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Jita Alt666
#17 - 2011-10-07 19:01:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jita Alt666
Would make Corp infiltration and awoxing way more fun. Imagine joining a small mission running corp and then systematically destroying their pve best fits - knowing they are getting no payouts.

I am getting a chubb just thinking about it Roll
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#18 - 2011-10-07 19:02:48 UTC
Milamara wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
Milamara wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
what do u guys herp derp think about ? Roll

Your inability to spell "Death" correctly.


English should die too... since EUA is a failed country and Chine is rising up, maybe mandarim should be the forum's oficial language

So not only do you fail at spelling (not just of the word Death), but you also fail at geopolitical geography. Here's a hint, EUA isn't a country.


is it a city ?
Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
#19 - 2011-10-07 19:09:32 UTC
EVE already has a more intense death penalty than just about any other MMO. You lose your implants, you lose probably somewhere around 50% of the value of your ship+fitting on average, you potentially lose training if you didn't make a clone or are flying a t3 and you potentially get transported to somewhere far away from where you want to be. Compare that to wow, for example, where you just get transported to the nearest graveyard. So, I don't know that it needs to be made even stricter. Maybe it needs to be made more exploit-proof. Killing a less expensive ship with a poorly fitted more expensive ship just because you know the insurance will cover it is an exploit IMO. But in general I think it's about right.

That said, I've always wondered what an MMO with an absolute death penalty would be like. You die, and that's it, you're dead. Game over, roll a new toon. It would need to be matched to the right kind of game- not one where you need years of training to do some things like in eve. But, could be pretty interesting. Instead of the "best" players just being the ones who have had the longest time to accumulate isk or gear or experience points or skill training or whatever, the best players would be those that actually are the best at playing the game. It'd be a great equalizer and would make everything more intense because of the risk you'd be facing. But, at the same time, it might just make everybody too scared to do anything cool... Or it just might make everybody ragequit after a few deaths... I dunno. I'd be curious to find out...
Milamara
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-10-07 19:17:16 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Would make Corp infiltration and awoxing way more fun. Imagine joining a small mission running corp and then systematically destroying their pve best fits - knowing they are getting no payouts.

I am getting a chubb just thinking about it Roll

Except that you didn't think this through. Even now insurance doesn't pay for faction/deadspace/officer mods so even now they do not get reimbursed for losing a 4 billion mission runner.

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