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Vince Stewart
Couger Habitat
#1 - 2012-06-22 23:36:47 UTC
thinking about getting an abaddon for running missions any thoughts?
Alara IonStorm
#2 - 2012-06-22 23:39:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Vince Stewart wrote:
thoughts?

Have really, really good Capacitor Skills.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#3 - 2012-06-22 23:44:10 UTC
If in doubt, don't. I've said it before and I'll say it again: by the time you've skilled up enough to make an Abaddon work you can fly a Paladin -- and you should.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#4 - 2012-06-23 01:37:31 UTC
Much better to use the lesser BS for missions for Amarr. The Aba just is not cap friendly.
Bill Serkoff2
Tachyon Technology
#5 - 2012-06-23 01:40:59 UTC
Thoughts on the Abaddon?
Sell it, use an Apocalypse.

"The Cyclone and the Drake are two ships which will basically never be good for shield tanking, primarily because they have almost no lowslots in addition to shield tanking bonuses. " -Iam Widdershins
Unimaginative Guy
Dutch Squad
#6 - 2012-06-23 01:57:44 UTC
Abaddon needs both cap skills at V, Bursts at IV, T2 scorch(mandatory), BS V really, it works well, and most gunnery supports at V.

AWU at V helps a lot too with fitting the thing decently.

Oerall the thing is such a skill sink that by the time you can really fly it effectivly you wont need to be using it to make a pittance off l4s
Lili Lu
#7 - 2012-06-23 02:29:07 UTC
OP, if you scroll back through a few pages often you find something helpful. Here you go https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=123756&find=unread
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#8 - 2012-06-23 03:05:01 UTC
Lili Lu wrote:
OP, if you scroll back through a few pages often you find something helpful. Here you go https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=123756&find=unread


I'm going to have to grudgingly endorse that thread, especially Lili's tach fit. But I still stand by my earlier comment.
Lili Lu
#9 - 2012-06-23 12:25:13 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Lili Lu wrote:
OP, if you scroll back through a few pages often you find something helpful. Here you go https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=123756&find=unread


I'm going to have to grudgingly endorse that thread, especially Lili's tach fit. But I still stand by my earlier comment.


Thanks.Smile

I flew the Abaddon as my first successful solo level 4 ship. I don't think Marauders were in the game yet. I looked at the problem in a different way and came up with a different solution. Also, I hated (and still detest) the looks of the Apoc hull. And, having determined I was going to use beams, kept beating my head against the grid restrictions on a geddon (I have since found the fun in a ridiculously easy to fit dual heavy beam geddon Lol). But something made me think Tachs on a baddon, and really do I need to sacrifice so much to put and fuel 8 on it when 7 will suffice.P

But yeah. Marauders were made to mission. And there are incredible isk faucets these days in the game. It used to mean a lot to get into your first cruiser, bc, and eventually BS, and even collect and work toward a higher tier within each ship class. It comes too easily and quickly now imo. (:grumpy old man: - with a kernel of truth)

That being said, it is still much easier to afford an Abaddon than a Paladin. Perfectly reasonable to do level 4s in an Abaddon, accumulate money with it and then buy and pimp a Paladin. Or, you could like me, for missions which are not needed as main source of income anymore, revert and enjoy tinkering with ships you couldn't get working before. And discover that that geddon can provide childish joy with machine gun rof dual heavy beam IIs.Bear
Sharise Dragonstar
Big Strong
#10 - 2012-06-23 15:07:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Sharise Dragonstar
Lili was referring to my post. With respect to Lili I have found a pretty awsesome setup which is cap stable beleive it or not, although i do have good cap skills. Lili's setup does work though and is fun.

8x Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam

3x Cap Recharger 2
1x Tracking Computer 2

1x Imperial Navy Large Armour Repairer
2x Heat Sink 2
3x Mission Suitable Hardeners
1x Power Capacitor Relay 2

3x Capacitor Control Rigs 1

DPS with Imperial Navy Multi...740 not including drones (30k Range)
DPS with Imperial Navy Ultra...555 not including drones (50k Range)

Apart from Repper it is pretty cheap. It runs missions a bit slower than my old (bad) setup but it is much easier to handle. You can drop the tracking computer and put in an 100mw AB2 and cap will last 20 min if desired, which i usually do on the easier lvl 4s.

Hope this helps.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#11 - 2012-06-24 05:05:16 UTC
Sharise Dragonstar wrote:
Lili was referring to my post. With respect to Lili I have found a pretty awsesome setup which is cap stable beleive it or not, although i do have good cap skills. Lili's setup does work though and is fun.

8x Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam

3x Cap Recharger 2
1x Tracking Computer 2

1x Imperial Navy Large Armour Repairer
2x Heat Sink 2
3x Mission Suitable Hardeners
1x Power Capacitor Relay 2

3x Capacitor Control Rigs 1

DPS with Imperial Navy Multi...740 not including drones (30k Range)
DPS with Imperial Navy Ultra...555 not including drones (50k Range)

Apart from Repper it is pretty cheap. It runs missions a bit slower than my old (bad) setup but it is much easier to handle. You can drop the tracking computer and put in an 100mw AB2 and cap will last 20 min if desired, which i usually do on the easier lvl 4s.

Hope this helps.


that's a pretty nice setup and pretty much what I flew till I bought a nightmare. I like it better than the pulse apoc.

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Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#12 - 2012-06-24 08:54:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Vilnius Zar
That Tach fit no good at all, only using 7 turrets, 1-2 HS and CPRs. Its dps is so crap you're better off using a Navy Apoc for it. If you want to try and be cap stable get a Napoc, if you want all out dps and accept that cap charges are your ammo then use the Abaddon.

770dps@60km no drones
970dps@20km no drones
Good tracking to hit stuff upclose and has an AB, armor repper to taste and those t2 rigs are dirt cheap.

[Abaddon, PVE - Pulse]
Core C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

100MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I