Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm not going to pretend this is entirely my idea, as it has been kicked around before, however this seems like a really good time to return to the subject.
I understand CCP (Hilmar) is considering changing the mechanics of Concorde, and this concerns me. In real life, the police always arrive too late, or at best, well after the event has started. In my opinion, this is the way it should be in EVE. Instant death etc simply won't cut it in our sandbox.

Falling asleep at the Jita/Perimeter gate with a 6B cargo while flying an Ibis needs to have consequences. If you are lucky, arriving at your stop in a pod to the jeers of New Eden!


However, consider real life. You find yourself short of cash, or disgruntled with a shop owner, and decide to drive your car through the front of the shop to get revenge/pillage the contents or so on. The police nab you and in your one call after arrest you call the insurance company and demand your payment. If they work out you are actually serious, they will laugh.

Why should EVE be different. Why should 7 pilots in Battleships be given 100% payouts for destroying a Orca in a criminal act, as I saw recently happened somewhere in Gallente territory?
I am certainly not suggesting that the gank should not be possible, in the sandbox if you are determined enough all things should be possible, however you should expect to bear the financial penalty in addition to the standings loss, for what that is worth.

The current situation only tells me that CCP originally didn't have the capacity, or will, to code in that Concorde kill = 0% payout overriding the insurance payout, as it is completely ludicrous.

Edit: I don't know that such a mechanic would be appropriate to low/null. The circumstances are entirely different. This relates entirely to HS Empire.

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Optional comedy idea - this is not really thought out, more something to discuss. Many pro's and con's however it could certainly help sort out some of our -5 to -10 empire residents.
When Concorde responds to a criminal act and destroys the ship, the criminal in question is 'detained' for questining for a random time i.e. 10-30 second depending on sec status. Being detained should consist of Pod being warp scrammed and webbed!

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Bonus comedy quote - the context - Goons 2006 onwards took great pleasure in sneering at BoB for their obsession with kill death rations (but bro, what about your k/d ratio!)

2011 on a website that cannot be named:

"Weaselior, Kazanir and I actually kicked this idea around 3 or 4 days ago to pay bounties to neutrals for ganking macks and hulks. After making some inquiries of our IT guru, the honouourable SoloDrakban, he said it would be relatively easy to set up a portal where non-GSF people could upload their killLog API, then generate reports for my reimbursement team and I to make bounty payments to.

It was one of several options we kicked around and it's something we will likely do in the near future, but we decided to let our guys pad their stats for awhile before opening it up to the masses. "

I hope the pitiful irony of this is not lost on anyone. Those who fight monsters should beware, lest they become that which they seek to destroy. Welcome the new BoB of 2011.



Have a good day citizens of New Eden.

Edit: Really shocking spelling

Being able to gank an Orca in Jita is one of the things I like about EVE.

Try living in low/null sec for a bit and then see how easy hi-sec really is.

Wack

I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to do it. Quite the contrary I agree completely (having been on both ends of ganking).
I simply cannot believe it is appropriate the criminal should receive an insurance payout for ships used in criminal acts in High Sec Empire.

There is nothing wrong in excessive suicide ganking. It is part of the game. Learn to live with it.

Insurance system as a whole is totally different issue and it is pretty flawed.

What Concord changes?

i like the insurance change because it means only we, the rich, can gank

and you'll expect it even less and cry about it even more

But actual real men measure their worth by their pile of real skulls, not some effete virtual kill board statistic.

Even suicide gankers think its ridiculous they get insurance, its just ccp moving like a glacier a usual. On the other hand insurance change wont effect the goon campaign, hulkageddon, officer fit missioner ganking, or the popping of noob ships carrying plex, so why bother making a thread about it?

Yup. One successful gank pays for an entire armada if its against an industrial, and the money made from isotopes more than pays for the ships used, insurance or not.

I'd like to see the Ganker automatically relocated to the nearest low security system.