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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-04-29 21:19:19 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
Hey, does anybody know, are the new graphics for shields and hull damage shown at fanfest, or some of it, going to be done for the next alliance tournament?

Also with the hit and miss effect thing. The one thing that has always bothered me more than anything is watching a competitive Gaming broadcasting where if the ships miss, they visually hit each other. From what I understand in the dev blog they CAN send this information to every single ship but it doesn't scale very well, so it's locked to just your own ship and the ships you shoot at.

That's all fine and dandy, BUT! The alliance tournament is very scalable. There will only ever be 20 ships at a time shooting each other, and only the camera ships have to see hit miss data. Please CCP I respectably implore you, if it's easy to do, please give the camera ship the ability to see if other ships are hitting or missing each other. Non-eve online players can't watch this tournament because it makes no sense visually. Seriously it's a mess.

I would love to get my friends into eve online. But when they see nothing missing and I have to explai it's all in the math and that frigate you see being lit up is actully dodging attacks, they get confused. Please ccp?

edit: HUZZAH, glad to hear you'll see if my idea is practical.
If it's not an easy thing to pull off I won't hold it against you guys. i personally LOVE the alliance tourney matches since 2005 : )

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CCP Loxy
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2012-04-30 10:03:16 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:

Also with the hit and miss effect thing. The one thing that has always bothered me more than anything is watching a competitive Gaming broadcasting where if the ships miss, they visually hit each other. From what I understand in the dev blog they CAN send this information to every single ship but it doesn't scale very well, so it's locked to just your own ship and the ships your shoot at.


Very good idea, I'll poke people and see if this is possible.

Video Producer & Director of EVE TV

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#3 - 2012-04-30 19:20:05 UTC
just hope this doesnt require a paraell universe for it to work ><

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-04-30 21:20:10 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
just hope this doesnt require a paraell universe for it to work ><

i wonder, this parallel universe, is everyone super-villain evil? coudl we be invaded by them for opening the dreaded portal to their world? would eb an awesome event.



nah, everyone knows WE are the evil universe.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#5 - 2012-04-30 23:10:42 UTC
Just saying the eve developers said before that new eden doesnt tolerate a 'virtual' reality for dueling so to say or simulations.

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Civ Zomas
Deep Space Engineering INC
#6 - 2012-05-10 16:37:53 UTC
Since it's a presentation thing, I'd guess only the client needs mods. Since there's already a special tournament client for the broadcast feed, the only question would be if there's enough dev time available to add that feature.
Lord ShakaZulu
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-05-11 09:45:23 UTC
I have been pondering this as well, it would look stunning if the hit/miss thing would show for all ships competing.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-01 10:03:59 UTC
CCP Loxy wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:

Also with the hit and miss effect thing. The one thing that has always bothered me more than anything is watching a competitive Gaming broadcasting where if the ships miss, they visually hit each other. From what I understand in the dev blog they CAN send this information to every single ship but it doesn't scale very well, so it's locked to just your own ship and the ships your shoot at.


Very good idea, I'll poke people and see if this is possible.


any update?

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#9 - 2012-06-01 14:04:00 UTC
This would be awesome.

I thought it used the data allready sent to the client and thus could only use the ones it had targetted and was shooting at you.

However the shots missed and hit are also sent on the watchlist? I hope CCP can "mod" this into the clients of the "cameramen"

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CCP Loxy
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-06-01 15:21:30 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
CCP Loxy wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:

Also with the hit and miss effect thing. The one thing that has always bothered me more than anything is watching a competitive Gaming broadcasting where if the ships miss, they visually hit each other. From what I understand in the dev blog they CAN send this information to every single ship but it doesn't scale very well, so it's locked to just your own ship and the ships your shoot at.


Very good idea, I'll poke people and see if this is possible.


any update?


Not as easy I had hoped so not sure about it yet. It did open the discussion on some other things we can do so expect some cool stuff :).

Video Producer & Director of EVE TV

Rrama Ratamnim
Phoenix Evolved Part Duo
#11 - 2012-06-02 04:44:43 UTC
:( *sad panda*
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#12 - 2012-06-06 15:16:40 UTC
CCP Loxy wrote:

Not as easy I had hoped so not sure about it yet. It did open the discussion on some other things we can do so expect some cool stuff :).


Would saying "make it so" help in any way?

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-06-07 17:52:52 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
CCP Loxy wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
CCP Loxy wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:

Also with the hit and miss effect thing. The one thing that has always bothered me more than anything is watching a competitive Gaming broadcasting where if the ships miss, they visually hit each other. From what I understand in the dev blog they CAN send this information to every single ship but it doesn't scale very well, so it's locked to just your own ship and the ships your shoot at.


Very good idea, I'll poke people and see if this is possible.


any update?


Not as easy I had hoped so not sure about it yet. It did open the discussion on some other things we can do so expect some cool stuff :).


looking forward to cool stuff.

please try to push that having ships miss each other will seriously boost enjoyment of the matches so the commentators don't have to say stuff like "As you can see that logi ship is speed tanking, so it won't take damage as it's avoiding being hit" while the visual on screen is the logiship getting hit by everything.

but thanks for bringing this up and thanks for getting back to me! hopefully next year? Because eve is looking so pretty now a days it really deserves this update some day : )

btw... can you hint at some of the cool stuff we might see? :D

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#14 - 2012-06-22 07:27:51 UTC
I to am interested in a continuation of this thread and the addition of relevant information regarding the questions proposed by the original poster.

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ry ry
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-06-22 17:44:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ry ry
I for one welcome the possibility on the continuation of this discourse, offering some small measure of recompense for the constant ******* whining of useless **** detritus and the oozing seepage of posting alts normally filling these hallowed pages.

I also just noticed mods deleted a post where I called Michael Bolton III a crotch. deleting the post is factually incorrect. Please reinstate it posthaste.
michael boltonIII
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-06-22 17:58:51 UTC
ry ry wrote:
I also just noticed mods deleted a post where I called Michael Bolton III a crotch. deleting the post is factually incorrect. Please reinstate it posthaste.


It's true.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-06-23 04:30:12 UTC
IT's getting close to the match time : ) I'm happy at least to see minmatar will be ready for the touney.

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CCP Loxy
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2012-06-23 13:05:38 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
IT's getting close to the match time : ) I'm happy at least to see minmatar will be ready for the touney.


We have also made some progress on that initial request Blink

Video Producer & Director of EVE TV

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-06-23 16:22:44 UTC
CCP Loxy wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
IT's getting close to the match time : ) I'm happy at least to see minmatar will be ready for the touney.


We have also made some progress on that initial request Blink


While i will do everything I can to keep my expectations in check... and not get too excited since i know it's not a promise and could just not work at the last second....

huzzah! \o/

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