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CCP Has Declared Themselves Anti-Sandbox

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#81 - 2012-06-23 05:48:19 UTC
Elysium Foxx wrote:
Its not "breaking the sandbox" to reverse any gains made by a few highly dedicated, organized and intelligent players, and any players who have received a donation from it.

You forgot to call it "cheating" by the way. In fact, it seems almost ironic, this bit of phrasing taken out of the rest of your context,

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sinqlaison
Capital Builders Inc.
#82 - 2012-06-23 05:48:43 UTC  |  Edited by: sinqlaison
Must say that I find the guys who did this a bit puzzling.

On one hand it takes a lot of smarts to find out the loophole and to devise a manner to make a lot of ISK from it.

On the other hand it is plain stupid then to brag about it like they did, and run the risk of losing all their gains and more.

Guess a psychiatrist in our midst must be able to reconcile these contrasting elements of 1 person's personality

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#83 - 2012-06-23 05:49:31 UTC
I think this is more like the tritanium cargo mission. It was created long ago, a level 4 mission to move some trit from A to B. When it was created, the mission reward was bigger than the value of the trit. Later on, trit price spiked and people were stealing the mission trit to sell it on the market for 5x the mission reward... faction standing hit be damned. CCP caught it and nerfed it.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#84 - 2012-06-23 05:49:53 UTC
sinqlaison wrote:
Must say that I find the guys who did this a bit puzzling.

On one hand it takes a lot of smarts to find out the loophole and to devise a manner to make a lot of ISK from it.

On the other hand it is plain stupid then to brag about it like they did, and run the risk of losing all their gains and more.

Guess a psychiatrist in our midst must be able to reconcile these contrasting elements of 1 person's personality

They don't need the isk, I don't think they'd just give it away.

Their cashing in ISK for drama.

First isk for LP, then LP for isk... repeat.... then isk for drama. Perfect end.

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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2012-06-23 05:53:08 UTC
sinqlaison wrote:
Must say that I find the guys who did this a bit puzzling.

On one hand it takes a lot of smarts to find out the loophole and to devise a manner to make a lot of ISK from it.

On the other hand it is plain stupid then to brag about it like they did, and run the risk of losing all their gains and more.

Guess a psychiatrist in our midst must be able to reconcile these contrasting elements of 1 person's personality


It's not that hard to quantify.

This was not cheating, nor was it an exploit. It was rubbing the fact that countless people warned CCP that the changes were poorly thought out and were ignored in CCP's face.

Because it was not cheating nor an exploit, these are fair market gains -- market manipulation is classic EVE market PVP, after all. Because they were fair market gains, why in the world wouldn't you brag about them?

And we got what we wanted -- a 100+ page threadnought full of pubbies so jealous they could just explode. That is why the thread was crossposted to the forums.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#86 - 2012-06-23 05:53:44 UTC
Xython wrote:
It's not that hard to quantify.

This was not cheating, nor was it an exploit. It was rubbing the fact that countless people warned CCP that the changes were poorly thought out and were ignored in CCP's face.

Because it was not cheating nor an exploit, these are fair market gains -- market manipulation is classic EVE market PVP, after all. Because they were fair market gains, why in the world wouldn't you brag about them?

And we got what we wanted -- a 100+ page threadnought full of pubbies so jealous they could just explode. That is why the thread was crossposted to the forums.

Awesome, isn't it?

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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2012-06-23 05:58:54 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Awesome, isn't it?


That's going to depend entirely on if NewCCP throws Aryth under the bus.
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-06-23 06:25:05 UTC
Xython wrote:
This was not cheating, nor was it an exploit.

And we got what we wanted -- a 100+ page threadnought full of pubbies so jealous they could just explode. That is why the thread was crossposted to the forums.


You be trollin' like James Brolin. Only CCP defines what is an exploit and what is not. Many things have been acceptable until CCP found out about them and then they were deemed an exploit and removed, POS bowling, boomerang, webbing freighters on undock etc, etc. Us players might have strong opinions on what is an exploit but in case you haven't met CCP yet, they don't care, they do what they want.

Second part I completely agree with. Some of the rage in that thread is awesome. No matter what comes of this, it is very entertaining to watch and that is the true sand\box of EVE.
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#89 - 2012-06-23 06:31:11 UTC
I can't remember the last time OP posted something sensible, ...... no I'm being honest here Roll

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Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2012-06-23 06:33:24 UTC
Do we really need two threads of this crap?
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#91 - 2012-06-23 06:36:48 UTC
No content, thread locked.

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Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#92 - 2012-06-23 06:37:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Commit Sudoku
^ get owned nooblord

Problem is that CCP can't just do what they want and they know it. Right now they're shitting their pants because they ****** up. 5T isk in the hands of p much the biggest and baddest je-- marketeers is awful, but several big gaming websites running articles on how CCP broke the sandbox is not really cool either. Besides, they set up the new game mechanics and the jewbal utilized them exactly as intended. Just on a slightly larger scale, with a little more preparation.

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Estel Again
Doomheim
#93 - 2012-06-23 06:38:00 UTC
Posting in a locked thread.
Alara IonStorm
#94 - 2012-06-23 06:38:29 UTC
Yay locked. Sorta.
Ituhata
Killboard Padding Services
#95 - 2012-06-23 06:40:30 UTC
i am omnipotent! Shocked
Alara IonStorm
#96 - 2012-06-23 06:43:21 UTC
Ituhata wrote:
i am omnipotent! Shocked

The hand of the Moderator has a limp wrist.

Power to the people. The disturbed, paranoid people.

We are the gods now!
Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-06-23 06:44:19 UTC
I hate these forums so ******* much

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Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-06-23 06:44:51 UTC
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#99 - 2012-06-23 06:46:28 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
By interfering with the latest Goon project of using FW to farm LP, CCP has proven that they hate the sandbox.


CCP proves once agian that the folks that do the playtesting at CCP aren't Goons, but should be Goons.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

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Adalus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#100 - 2012-06-23 06:52:42 UTC
Posting in a locked thread

Also I guess an unlocked locked six-page no content thread full of heated discussion about whether eve's sandbox is actually a sandbox or not because of deleting lots of isk from the sandbox