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Balancing RL & EVE

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Aiden Neros
Erudite Anomalous
#1 - 2011-10-07 15:51:42 UTC
A lot of us here are in the same spaceboat drifting through space. Full/Part Time Job, Friends & Family, & maybe a significant other yammering on about the dishes that have piled up. I've recently left a corp because I couldn't find the time to actively participate. Schedules wouldn't line up. I'm only available 3-4 hours a day outside of work and never when we were running ops. And I'm certainly not consistent about that small portion of time with all that comes up unexpectedly.

So I'm considering my options. How do you all make it work. I'm sure there are many busier than I am who still manage to make more time for Eve but I can't fathom how. How many hours do you spend in Eve in a week and do you end up running into the same scheduling problems?
InVictus Kell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-10-07 16:01:02 UTC
I just neglect my family alltogether. My imaginary time is way more entertaining than the RL people around me, they have tons of problems and keep whining to me about them. that's not as fun as internet spaceships. I may even take my daughter-in-law's college fund and blow on cheetos and beer just to complete the effect.

Life is too short to be sad about other people's problems.



On a more serious note, i'm very lucky that the corp i'm in is full of people with families, so there's an understanding that sometimes not everyone can make it all the time. And not every single op is the "one op we have to have 100% of people on or we lose the entire region!" There's a strange sense of realistic expectations flowing. It's actually distrubing how rationale it is at times.

Alcohol also works.
CCP Wrangler
#3 - 2011-10-07 16:02:05 UTC
I tend to find understanding corporations/guilds in any game I play that also consists of like-minded people without enough time to play several hours every day.

Wrangler Community Team Manager - Community Arch Wizard

Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement. - Winston Churchill

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2011-10-07 16:02:54 UTC
gank miners, you can do it at any time of day

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Amsterdam Conversations
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-10-07 16:03:34 UTC
I stopped wasting my time through sleeping years ago. This really benefit me when I started playing EVE.

12 hours a day for RL, 11 hours for EVE, one hour for sleep (if you ever get a headache or hungover). After CCP cut the downtime by 50%, my day got about 30 minutes longer, allowing me to spend more time for RL or EVE.

Sleep is one of the most overrated things and one of the biggest time wasters. I wish there was no downtime so I didn't waste any time at all.
Barakkus
#6 - 2011-10-07 16:03:36 UTC
I'm back down to like maybe 10 hours in a week. I run incursions for a couple hours once or twice a week, then go pvp with friends the remaining about of time I'm on with the money I made incursioning. I'm completely solo and it works out well for me.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Aiden Neros
Erudite Anomalous
#7 - 2011-10-07 16:10:22 UTC
It IS a fun game and I wish I had more time to spend on it. What bugs me is that I used to have the kind of time a few years ago but the older I get the more solidified my schedule is. I think Kell has a good idea with the alcohol, though. I'm certain loosening up would solve that problem. I'd cut into sleep like Amsterdam but I already lose out enough on that already. Wow, 1 hour a night...

I guess the first step would be as CCP Wrangler says and find those like-minded people with the most similar schedules. I just hope we're not all so inconsistent that no one is ever on. Ah well, thanks for the suggestions Big smile
Wacktopia
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-10-07 16:21:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Wacktopia
I would find a corp within the same time zone as you with people who do similar things as you.

For example: If you live and work in the UK and work a 9-5 job and are expected to eat dinner with your wife instead of playing spaceships until, say, 8pm then you want to find a corp full of other people that do the same.

Other Example: If you're a student in the East USA and can play in between lectures in the day and later into the evening after your study work then you could find a corp that has EU tz players for the day and USA West coast players for the evening.

Finding corps is pretty easy and although it may seem like everyone in EVE is a back-stabbing thief, the reality is that a large number are just wanting to do some pewpewz after work... like you :)

Wack

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com

David Grogan
NerdHerd
#9 - 2011-10-07 16:21:35 UTC
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
I stopped wasting my time through sleeping years ago. This really benefit me when I started playing EVE.

12 hours a day for RL, 11 hours for EVE, one hour for sleep (if you ever get a headache or hungover). After CCP cut the downtime by 50%, my day got about 30 minutes longer, allowing me to spend more time for RL or EVE.

Sleep is one of the most overrated things and one of the biggest time wasters. I wish there was no downtime so I didn't waste any time at all.



you could become a stimulus junkie.... then you wouldn't need to sleep at all. just ask any teenage girl that is cramming for her final exams for the number of her local stim dealer.

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.

lachrymus
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2011-10-07 16:23:20 UTC
I'm in your boat. Currently sitting in an airport wasting time but unable to play properly on this laptop connecting via a roaming mobile account (read:expensive). And when I get home very late tonight, I'll have to tend to family matters. Sigh....
Seul Manus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-10-07 17:03:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Seul Manus
I've not played the game for several weeks.

Just don't have the time of late, plus I'm going to be selling this rig next month to make way for building a new one for Crimbo, so I very soon will not even have a PC.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#12 - 2011-10-07 17:07:36 UTC
How many accounts?

1 Account = c1 wormhole, 2 = c2, 3=c3.

The only problem is it takes a lot of time to setup. Once you're in its pretty easy to play when you are able. I

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Aiden Neros
Erudite Anomalous
#13 - 2011-10-07 17:13:41 UTC
There have been times where I went without playing for weeks on end. I've been involved in many rush projects over the course of the summer and barely had enough time to enjoy the weather let alone a game of spaceship pew pew. I'm likely spread too thin with my endeavors. At the end of the day you need money in your pockets and debts take the flavor out of relaxation.

I can't even imagine playing with managing multiple accounts. I can hardly take time to appreciate the one I've got. If I gave up seeing my family, my girl, get 4 hours of sleep every night, and resign myself to a humbling budget I probably could get a whole lot out of it. I'm sure I'd have a great time too. Shocked
Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-10-07 17:26:34 UTC
i live in a WH do all sites on weekends and for teh rest of the week i Just PI. Its enough to pay the PLEX and keep my account going even though my life during the weeks are super hectic

CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool

Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
#15 - 2011-10-07 17:36:27 UTC
I dropped from 4 accounts to 2 since most were just training and not doing anything. I keep tabs while I'm at work since I work at home and can use EVE as a CPU hungry chat app. My corporation is just casual pilots doing what they want and use the corp for mostly social reasons plus sharing some corp assets.

Basically, I've given up doing the null sec alliance thing and just go exploring and doing some manufacturing when I do find the time to actually undock. There is plenty of mostly solo activities you can do plus you can jump into an Incursion fleet when the mood hits you.

_ _

Lord Ryan
True Xero
#16 - 2011-10-07 17:58:38 UTC
Already decided to get a divorce when/if ccp adds new ships so I have more time for Eve. May even quit my job and sell all her ****.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#17 - 2011-10-07 18:00:44 UTC
I go for months without doing little more than updating the skill queue at times. That's just the way it is. The only long sessions I ever did - more than one hour - in the last year or so were for the live event incursions.

However trolling the forums is something I do often.

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Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#18 - 2011-10-07 18:17:01 UTC
You only need enough RL to finance a room, net connection, food and the EVE subscription. Beyond that, screw it.

There is no reason to spend your time doing stuff you don't like just so you can finance stuff you like only to find out that between job and sleep there isn't enough time left in the day to enjoy what you're working for to enjoy.
Aiden Neros
Erudite Anomalous
#19 - 2011-10-07 18:38:09 UTC
Well I enjoy some of the things I do in RL. Though by its nature its not particularly or consistently lucrative. And I'm afraid I've grown rather attached to RL. I feel there may be a way that my Eve experiences compliment my RL lifestyle just beyond being casual, though I admire your commitment to doing what you love, Abrazzar. I know I can't fully commit myself to a single game, no matter how intensive/immersive/engaging. At some point I want to advance in my career/trade and still participate in the world at large. Essentially level up in RL. But Eve is my relaxant, it's my kicking off the shoes and putting on the slippers, so eventually I'll need my fix.

Somewhere along the lines there will be a trade off. One or the other based on what I feel is most important to me. That or I just combine the two in some mutant space fusion.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#20 - 2011-10-07 18:50:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Ryan
Aiden Neros wrote:
Well I enjoy some of the things I do in RL. Though by its nature its not particularly or consistently lucrative. And I'm afraid I've grown rather attached to RL. I feel there may be a way that my Eve experiences compliment my RL lifestyle just beyond being casual, though I admire your commitment to doing what you love, Abrazzar. I know I can't fully commit myself to a single game, no matter how intensive/immersive/engaging. At some point I want to advance in my career/trade and still participate in the world at large. Essentially level up in RL. But Eve is my relaxant, it's my kicking off the shoes and putting on the slippers, so eventually I'll need my fix.

Somewhere along the lines there will be a trade off. One or the other based on what I feel is most important to me. That or I just combine the two in some mutant space fusion.



You mean like this.
another view.
Yeah you can play Eve on it.

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