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Goons 4x4ing through the Sandbox - Market Manipulation on a Grand Scale

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2061 - 2012-06-23 04:57:24 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:

Any publicity is good publicity.


You know, you should consider what became of the guy that originally said that. There is, indeed, bad Publicity.
Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2062 - 2012-06-23 04:57:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Paint
Jade Constantine wrote:
Paint wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:


If you did that I might be able to convince CCP soundwave to revert the wardec changes to 1.0 (or better yet) actually produce a decent compromise on the 1.1 fix that didn't massively disadvantage smaller alliances fighting much larger aggressors with the aid of hisec allies.


Well, if you wouldn't "hire" any three person corp, with people barely able to press F1, onto your little wardec, you might find that actually hiring competent mercs might prove useful.


Hardly. The guys I've allowed into the wardec currently are kicking the goons into next year.
Why the heck would I pay "competant" mercs a penny when the goons themselves only pay 50m a week?




I am just curious - where can I see the killboard for this war and why haven't I seen you ever at vfk?

To be clear I want to compare it to our other endeavors because unlike you, goonswarm is not afraid to lose a lot of ships to proove a point and, ultimately, win. But you are obviously too stupid to pick up on that.

edit - a very quick look at http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=7743&m=6&y=2012 shows little or no goon kills. Yep you sure are owning us all right.


Pretty much putting a bag over your heads and kicking your alliance down the stairs currently.

The Killboard is ingame and anyone can see it by searching for the "Goonswarm Federation vs The Star Fraction" war on the wars browser. Current situation is very much in our favour as you will see. Unfortunately CCP have decided to nerf defensive wardecs with the 1.1 patch so our allied coalition is unsustainable. By strange coincidence it will cost the princely sum of 5 Trillion ISK every 2 weeks if we wanted to continue the war on this scale.

As for why we haven't visited you in VFK. Well thats pretty straightforward. You WARDECCED US! That means you have to do the work and come and hunt your enemies not sit on your lazy moon-goo-sucking backsides like some kinda of Jabba-the-hutt crimelords while we come to you!

Good heavens, you chaps really don't understand this whole war thing.




So you have no kills. OK

Edit - I will freely admit I don't pay much attention to wars but when I look at the war browser, unless I am missing something, which is completely possible, it shows no kills. But please do feel free to show me kills and losses from the war. Especially yours. This seems important to you.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2063 - 2012-06-23 05:02:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Cygnet Lythanea
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


http://www.reputation.com/

saw a commercial for these guys. Apparently mittens actually DOES need their services, or did when googling his name = cyberbullying cause we all know cyberbully = child molester



Actually, if you google him, articles like this: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/feature/6263/The-End-of-The-Mittani-Era.html

still top the list.


Goons need to create some positive press.
Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#2064 - 2012-06-23 05:03:37 UTC
why would we want to go to hisec, what the hell
Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#2065 - 2012-06-23 05:04:47 UTC
the last time we went to hisec some crazy **** went down and I went home with at least 15 pairs of panties that were not mine
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#2066 - 2012-06-23 05:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


http://www.reputation.com/

saw a commercial for these guys. Apparently mittens actually DOES need their services, or did when googling his name = cyberbullying cause we all know cyberbully = child molester



Actually, if you google him, articles like this: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/feature/6263/The-End-of-The-Mittani-Era.html

still top the list.


Goons need to create some positive press.


http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=9&gs_id=3y&xhr=t&q=the+mittani&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=the+mitta&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=24bd4001b4cd61d4&biw=1920&bih=898

I got that

Cyberbullying is like #3 on the list now lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Time Funnel
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#2067 - 2012-06-23 05:05:50 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:

Any publicity is good publicity.


Yes, this is the smartest way to handle the situation. Just take the difference of "before" and "after" and roll around in new subscriptions because people read that you can make 175k USD by blowing yourself up in a video game. A big media event like this once a month would be a huge boon.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2068 - 2012-06-23 05:05:50 UTC
Commit Sudoku wrote:
why would we want to go to hisec, what the hell



According to current press releases: to punish all those that spoke in favor of The MIttani being banned for life for his gross violations of the cyberbullying laws of almost every nation in Northern Europe and the United States.

I assume that means you don't like someone there and have to go there to 'cyber bully' them.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#2069 - 2012-06-23 05:07:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJxiDrOvYwM&feature=player_embedded

it is pretty fun to watch the yellow - grows like a time lapse mold

what the hell happened in February of 2010? Goons dissapeared and were replaced by IT

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#2070 - 2012-06-23 05:08:23 UTC
Time Funnel wrote:
ModeratedToSilence wrote:

Any publicity is good publicity.


Yes, this is the smartest way to handle the situation. Just take the difference of "before" and "after" and roll around in new subscriptions because people read that you can make 175k USD by blowing yourself up in a video game. A big media event like this once a month would be a huge boon.


"Cool things happened in the sandbox", which is what this was, is good PR. "Cool things happened in the sandbox, but then players got punished for their legitimate actions" which, while the official verdict is still out (no statement from CCP yet, after all), is how many players perceive it, is not such good PR. Blink

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

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Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2071 - 2012-06-23 05:10:18 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Commit Sudoku wrote:
why would we want to go to hisec, what the hell



According to current press releases: to punish all those that spoke in favor of The MIttani being banned for life for his gross violations of the cyberbullying laws of almost every nation in Northern Europe and the United States.

I assume that means you don't like someone there and have to go there to 'cyber bully' them.



Wait a minute, you said a few posts back that we control CCP. Perhaps you are a bit confused.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#2072 - 2012-06-23 05:10:35 UTC
Commit Sudoku wrote:
the last time we went to hisec some crazy **** went down and I went home with at least 15 pairs of panties that were not mine


Men's underwear are not called panties....Oops

Signature removed - CCP Eterne

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2073 - 2012-06-23 05:12:41 UTC
corestwo wrote:

"Cool things happened in the sandbox", which is what this was, is good PR. "Cool things happened in the sandbox, but then players got punished for their legitimate actions" which, while the official verdict is still out (no statement from CCP yet, after all), is how many players perceive it, is not such good PR. Blink



Not so much. Goons are being tied to The Mittani's fanfest affair and the word 'investigation' appears in a lot of them. So, no, not good PR.
Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2074 - 2012-06-23 05:13:54 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
corestwo wrote:

"Cool things happened in the sandbox", which is what this was, is good PR. "Cool things happened in the sandbox, but then players got punished for their legitimate actions" which, while the official verdict is still out (no statement from CCP yet, after all), is how many players perceive it, is not such good PR. Blink



Not so much. Goons are being tied to The Mittani's fanfest affair and the word 'investigation' appears in a lot of them. So, no, not good PR.


Is English your first language? Mittani *is* a goon.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2075 - 2012-06-23 05:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Cygnet Lythanea
Paint wrote:

Wait a minute, you said a few posts back that we control CCP. Perhaps you are a bit confused.


Paint, I have the feeling that everything that I say to you passes through a filter that increases it by an order of magnitude. I said that punishing you was unlikely because they think you'll mass quit if it were to happen, and they don't want to see any big spikes in subscriber loss, particularly right now with every other MMO showing a drop in subscriptions.


Paint wrote:

Is English your first language? Mittani *is* a goon.


It's clearly not yours. The point was that they're starting to portray goons *in general* by the actions of a few. So, tell me what is good PR about being thought of by the gaming public at large as a group of cyberbullies who win by cheating at games?
Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2076 - 2012-06-23 05:16:51 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Commit Sudoku wrote:
the last time we went to hisec some crazy **** went down and I went home with at least 15 pairs of panties that were not mine


Men's underwear are not called panties....Oops



But it is so comfy.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#2077 - 2012-06-23 05:17:43 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Paint wrote:

Wait a minute, you said a few posts back that we control CCP. Perhaps you are a bit confused.


Paint, I have the feeling that everything that I say to you passes through a filter that increases it by an order of magnitude. I said that punishing you was unlikely because they think you'll mass quit if it were to happen, and they don't want to see any big spikes in subscriber loss, particularly right now with every other MMO showing a drop in subscriptions.

Right, so you'd like to see goons unsub, right? Do your part by posting abo---

wait wait, it's only a few people who are actually affected. Most of us are looking for hilarious EVEO content, and BOY-OH-BOY does EVEO GD deliver!

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Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2078 - 2012-06-23 05:18:05 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Paint wrote:

Wait a minute, you said a few posts back that we control CCP. Perhaps you are a bit confused.


Paint, I have the feeling that everything that I say to you passes through a filter that increases it by an order of magnitude. I said that punishing you was unlikely because they think you'll mass quit if it were to happen, and they don't want to see any big spikes in subscriber loss, particularly right now with every other MMO showing a drop in subscriptions.


No the point is you are a gibbering idiot and you aren't making any sense at all. If you have not picked up on the fact that most people are outright laughing at you at this point you should probably seek help.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#2079 - 2012-06-23 05:19:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Paint wrote:

Wait a minute, you said a few posts back that we control CCP. Perhaps you are a bit confused.


Paint, I have the feeling that everything that I say to you passes through a filter that increases it by an order of magnitude. I said that punishing you was unlikely because they think you'll mass quit if it were to happen, and they don't want to see any big spikes in subscriber loss, particularly right now with every other MMO showing a drop in subscriptions.


Yeah punishment is unlikely mainly given the lack of punishment in other such circumstances in the past, AND -----Edit-----

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ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaisons
Interstellar Services Department

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#2080 - 2012-06-23 05:20:28 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


http://www.reputation.com/

saw a commercial for these guys. Apparently mittens actually DOES need their services, or did when googling his name = cyberbullying cause we all know cyberbully = child molester



Actually, if you google him, articles like this: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/feature/6263/The-End-of-The-Mittani-Era.html

still top the list.


Goons need to create some positive press.


http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=9&gs_id=3y&xhr=t&q=the+mittani&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=the+mitta&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=24bd4001b4cd61d4&biw=1920&bih=898

I got that

Cyberbullying is like #3 on the list now lol


i like how all i have to do is type "the mit" into google search bar and of the immediate suggestions "the mittani" is second on the drop down box lol