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Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#21 - 2012-06-22 09:06:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Copine Callmeknau
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Does he have or own anything he treasures? The proper revenge etiquette would suggest damaging something he values or trying to cause equal financial loss. Anything he takes pride in or loves is a good target. You know, if he has a fancy car, cause damage to it or ruin it's looks. If he's a gardener, kill some of his priced plants/ruin the soil. You get the point. You should also prepare for blowback by trying to get evidence on possible retaliation attempts. A cheap ass camera recording the access point to your driveway/car for example, so you can sue his ass for damages or even get him jailed, if he doesn't have the good sense to quit.

You could also try to escalate matters yourself, but this will lead to almost certain retaliation and further escalation. I wouldn't recommend this unless you truly hate the guy and a more reasonable approach is already out of the question. Things like carefully timed and placed rat poison meatballs used against a known dog lover should cause the desired affect. If you plan to go this route, preparations for counter actions is a must for the safety of your property and health. Also note, that you propably want to leave it at one time actions if possible, since he too will prepare himself for any further direct retaliation attempts. You might want to do this especially, if you plan to get him to incriminate himself with a new attempt on you.

For this to really work it's a must to damage/eliminate something he truly values. You want to make him so mad, that he can't leave the issue at that even though he can't actually prove who was behind it. Just make sure the damage you cause isn't severe enough to warrant serious police attention. So in the example case of poisoning their pets, don't go spreading packets of poisoned meat randomly in the neighbourhood. If you can't target just his pets, use another method or change the target. For example it's often legal to kill unattended animals that come to your property, so feuding neighbours simply shoot wandering pets(cats mostly) belonging to people they hate. Perfectly legal and they can react like you killed their child or something.

Never done the escalation path personally, but I've been a bystander following two elder property owners going down that path. Property damage, petty theft, spreading rumors, killing pets, all the good stuff, but never enough proof or serious enough for the police to intervene. Lasted for years and only ended when one of them finally died. Natural causes as far as I know and they were both old men, so it was to be expected. Again I don't recommend this, since while you turn his life to **** there is a good chance, that you're going to be stranded in the same **** with him.

Great post
I'd had the same thought pattern, unfortunately the rancid maggot in question has nothing to his name.
No car
No assets
No job
No pet
Lives with his parents even though rapidly nearing thirty years old

Anything I did in traditional revenge style would simply hurt his girlfriend or family, whom he's using as a shield.


Sidus Isaacs wrote:
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
I know who he is and where he lives, but don't really wanna go to jail :p

So revenge suggestions in legally grey areas please, not legally black areas


Why did he do it? Did you **** him off? Is he just a douche bag? Did he have a troubled youth?

Talk to him about it?

We had an argument, then he stole my property, I called him out on facebook over it (lol), he then slashed my tires

I tried talking to him twice about it before the escalations happened and it got nowhere on either occasion. This dude is an arrogant entitled prick (a shining example of why you should kick your kids out at 18, not let them sit around sponging off you until they are 26+), and unless he gets his own way he'll throws every toy out of the pram that he can.


Oh and police are not an option at all unfortunately, can't draw attention to myself for various reasons I'd rather not go into.

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-06-22 09:48:25 UTC
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Does he have or own anything he treasures? The proper revenge etiquette would suggest damaging something he values or trying to cause equal financial loss. Anything he takes pride in or loves is a good target. You know, if he has a fancy car, cause damage to it or ruin it's looks. If he's a gardener, kill some of his priced plants/ruin the soil. You get the point. You should also prepare for blowback by trying to get evidence on possible retaliation attempts. A cheap ass camera recording the access point to your driveway/car for example, so you can sue his ass for damages or even get him jailed, if he doesn't have the good sense to quit.

You could also try to escalate matters yourself, but this will lead to almost certain retaliation and further escalation. I wouldn't recommend this unless you truly hate the guy and a more reasonable approach is already out of the question. Things like carefully timed and placed rat poison meatballs used against a known dog lover should cause the desired affect. If you plan to go this route, preparations for counter actions is a must for the safety of your property and health. Also note, that you propably want to leave it at one time actions if possible, since he too will prepare himself for any further direct retaliation attempts. You might want to do this especially, if you plan to get him to incriminate himself with a new attempt on you.

For this to really work it's a must to damage/eliminate something he truly values. You want to make him so mad, that he can't leave the issue at that even though he can't actually prove who was behind it. Just make sure the damage you cause isn't severe enough to warrant serious police attention. So in the example case of poisoning their pets, don't go spreading packets of poisoned meat randomly in the neighbourhood. If you can't target just his pets, use another method or change the target. For example it's often legal to kill unattended animals that come to your property, so feuding neighbours simply shoot wandering pets(cats mostly) belonging to people they hate. Perfectly legal and they can react like you killed their child or something.

Never done the escalation path personally, but I've been a bystander following two elder property owners going down that path. Property damage, petty theft, spreading rumors, killing pets, all the good stuff, but never enough proof or serious enough for the police to intervene. Lasted for years and only ended when one of them finally died. Natural causes as far as I know and they were both old men, so it was to be expected. Again I don't recommend this, since while you turn his life to **** there is a good chance, that you're going to be stranded in the same **** with him.

Great post
I'd had the same thought pattern, unfortunately the rancid maggot in question has nothing to his name.
No car
No assets
No job
No pet
Lives with his parents even though rapidly nearing thirty years old

Anything I did in traditional revenge style would simply hurt his girlfriend or family, whom he's using as a shield.


Sidus Isaacs wrote:
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
I know who he is and where he lives, but don't really wanna go to jail :p

So revenge suggestions in legally grey areas please, not legally black areas


Why did he do it? Did you **** him off? Is he just a douche bag? Did he have a troubled youth?

Talk to him about it?

We had an argument, then he stole my property, I called him out on facebook over it (lol), he then slashed my tires

I tried talking to him twice about it before the escalations happened and it got nowhere on either occasion. This dude is an arrogant entitled prick (a shining example of why you should kick your kids out at 18, not let them sit around sponging off you until they are 26+), and unless he gets his own way he'll throws every toy out of the pram that he can.


Oh and police are not an option at all unfortunately, can't draw attention to myself for various reasons I'd rather not go into.


It would seem then, that the best course of option is to ignore him. Weather your losses and hope no escalation will occur. Any revenge scheme would just make you stoop to his level.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#23 - 2012-06-22 14:12:08 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
I'd had the same thought pattern, unfortunately the rancid maggot in question has nothing to his name...Anything I did in traditional revenge style would simply hurt his girlfriend or family, whom he's using as a shield.

We had an argument, then he stole my property, I called him out on facebook over it (lol), he then slashed my tires.


So you got yourself into a feud with this guy and you took it to facebook? That was really stupid. Never, EVER call people out publicly on Facebook. It's never resolved anything ever in the history of mankind. All you do is **** them off for putting your personal drama out in front of all their friends.

Imagine if I called you into a theater full of 200 friends, family, and acquaintances and then proceeded to air all my grievances in front of them. You'd feel attacked and get defensive and things would escalate simply because you'd feel the need to save face in front of virtually everyone you know. It's completely the wrong way to go about dealing with a problem. And who knows what kind of drama you dropped on his head by making the matter into a public spectacle.

edit: I'm not justifying his vandalism. I'm just saying that confronting someone in any public space is bad, doing so on Facebook where the audience is every friend and family member that uses the site is far worse. Of COURSE he wanted to get back at you for that. I just don't get why people think it's ever a good idea to do that.

Copine Callmeknau wrote:
Oh and police are not an option at all unfortunately, can't draw attention to myself for various reasons I'd rather not go into.


So you leave the Eve community to fill in the blanks? Bad idea. Blink

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#24 - 2012-06-22 14:47:09 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
I'd had the same thought pattern, unfortunately the rancid maggot in question has nothing to his name...Anything I did in traditional revenge style would simply hurt his girlfriend or family, whom he's using as a shield.

We had an argument, then he stole my property, I called him out on facebook over it (lol), he then slashed my tires.


So you got yourself into a feud with this guy and you took it to facebook? That was really stupid. Never, EVER call people out publicly on Facebook. It's never resolved anything ever in the history of mankind. All you do is **** them off for putting your personal drama out in front of all their friends.

Imagine if I called you into a theater full of 200 friends, family, and acquaintances and then proceeded to air all my grievances in front of them. You'd feel attacked and get defensive and things would escalate simply because you'd feel the need to save face in front of virtually everyone you know. It's completely the wrong way to go about dealing with a problem. And who knows what kind of drama you dropped on his head by making the matter into a public spectacle.

Hey I know WHY he did it, don't worry :p
Only got taken to facebook cause I was at the end of my tether and exhausted all reasonable options. Quite frankly I hope I dropped all the drama in the world on his head with it, and if his family sees it and finally evict him I don't think I'll stop laughing about it for weeks.
Besides if even one person read it and decided to follow my advice it was totally worth it and I can cross off my good deed for the year.

Fact of the matter is once you've been stolen from, you've tried talking, you've tried reasoning, you've tried getting mutual friends to apply pressure and the police aren't an option, that only really leaves me with the options of stealing it back, starting fisticuffs, or publicly outing him

FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
Oh and police are not an option at all unfortunately, can't draw attention to myself for various reasons I'd rather not go into.


So you leave the Eve community to fill in the blanks? Bad idea. Blink

Well I suppose CCP aren't likely to forward my address on to the police.
I'm growing a whole lot of stinky plants and can't have cops at my house taking pics of tires and writing reports and sich

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#25 - 2012-06-22 19:09:40 UTC
This is like another ordinary day in the trailer park.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-06-22 21:34:15 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
This is like another ordinary day in the trailer park.


*Waits for the meth lab explosion*

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#27 - 2012-06-22 22:21:20 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
This is like another ordinary day in the trailer park.


*Waits for the meth lab explosion*



I can honestly say been there, done that.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-06-22 22:35:21 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
This is like another ordinary day in the trailer park.


*Waits for the meth lab explosion*



I can honestly say been there, done that.


Well then you should have safer practices in your meth lab

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#29 - 2012-06-22 23:10:43 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
This is like another ordinary day in the trailer park.


*Waits for the meth lab explosion*



I can honestly say been there, done that.


Well then you should have safer practices in your meth lab



I maintain to the strictest OSHA standards in my meth labs thank you very much.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-06-23 00:01:48 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
This is like another ordinary day in the trailer park.


*Waits for the meth lab explosion*



I can honestly say been there, done that.


Well then you should have safer practices in your meth lab



I maintain to the strictest OSHA standards in my meth labs thank you very much.


Are you hiring? Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
stoicfaux
#31 - 2012-06-23 01:52:56 UTC
Copine Callmeknau wrote:

Oh and police are not an option at all unfortunately, can't draw attention to myself for various reasons I'd rather not go into.

In that case, generally speaking, addicts don't start to fight their addiction until they've hit rock bottom (i.e. pissed away all their money, homes, friends, and family.)

Accidentally leave some highly addictive stuff where he can get it. He gets hooked, you keep him discretely supplied, then leave the neighborhood for several months leaving him high and dry. By the time you get back, he should be well on his way to destroying everything in his life. (The reason for leaving is so he doesn't publicly name you as his supplier. However, if you manage to get him thoroughly hooked without him knowing it's you, then kudos.)


Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-06-23 02:30:54 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Copine Callmeknau wrote:

Oh and police are not an option at all unfortunately, can't draw attention to myself for various reasons I'd rather not go into.

In that case, generally speaking, addicts don't start to fight their addiction until they've hit rock bottom (i.e. pissed away all their money, homes, friends, and family.)

Accidentally leave some highly addictive stuff where he can get it. He gets hooked, you keep him discretely supplied, then leave the neighborhood for several months leaving him high and dry. By the time you get back, he should be well on his way to destroying everything in his life. (The reason for leaving is so he doesn't publicly name you as his supplier. However, if you manage to get him thoroughly hooked without him knowing it's you, then kudos.)




This is pure brilliance Shocked

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#33 - 2012-06-23 02:56:16 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Copine Callmeknau wrote:

Oh and police are not an option at all unfortunately, can't draw attention to myself for various reasons I'd rather not go into.

In that case, generally speaking, addicts don't start to fight their addiction until they've hit rock bottom (i.e. pissed away all their money, homes, friends, and family.)

Accidentally leave some highly addictive stuff where he can get it. He gets hooked, you keep him discretely supplied, then leave the neighborhood for several months leaving him high and dry. By the time you get back, he should be well on his way to destroying everything in his life. (The reason for leaving is so he doesn't publicly name you as his supplier. However, if you manage to get him thoroughly hooked without him knowing it's you, then kudos.)



Genius. would read again

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Hiryu Jin
noXCorp
#34 - 2012-06-23 04:53:38 UTC
treat him with kindness, become friends with him, go on a hunting trip together...
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#35 - 2012-06-23 08:20:24 UTC
Hiryu Jin wrote:
treat him with kindness, become friends with him, go on a hunting trip together...

<3 PCa

There should be a rather awesome pic here
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