EVE General Discussion

*points to current corp name* Same level of awesome, much nicer ring to it. Might try googling it.


For those with no idea what Paint is talking about: out of 9 corps since 2004, 4 of them were incarnations of the same corp, with a same or similar sounding name.

The others that I named were:
Kagura Total Security
The Eiken Club
World Welfare Works Association
Elite Angels


Feel free to play the theme game at home! First one right without using google gets a +like.

How could it be better than a cartoon about young girls with giant breasts? That was the obvious high point in your corp history.

Paint, you need to stop eating it.

You are a little behind the times, CCP already said it was not an exploit. You are also a little late if you think Goons trolling people is anything new.

Never did say that. That one was all Paint.

lol who were these 'allies' that were so dependent on you and who were not able to build their own capitals

And, again, not what I said: MC (as an example former customer) had members with outstanding agreements with me. You do realize that not every supply chain stays in the alliance, right?

And, again, Paint, that does not say that I was essential to your success. As I stated before, the only people essential to your success have been CCP's reluctance to do something about goons.

Yeah Nobody got banned and removed from the CSM lately or anything. Everyone knows how POWERFUL goonswarm influence is at CCP. WE ARE UNTOUCHABLE.

Might as well quit now!

Well how exactly do you handle a rollback like that really. CCP could give all the LP back to the minmatar characters who cashed out - and remove all the loyalty point goods they bought with it. But how do you restore the integrity of the market and get back to prices these things should be worth (without removing pretty much everything that got cashed in and sold during the weeks after inferno).

If it turned out that was a route CCP wanted to go by then fair enough. I'd be happy to see the couple of million lps that I legally earned (missions and plexes) turn up in my wallet while all the hundreds of millions of lps the rest of the militia earned turned up in theirs.

We could then spend 6m between us to put the store to tier 5 again and cash out again. (returning our hangers to the same approximate state they currently are in).

But thats a lot of GM time and effort to clean up after the goons really

Here's the thing Pinky. Regardless of the goon-manipulation the TLF is capable of taking the minmatar store to tier 5 at any time simply by spending 6m collectively. Six fairly average FW players have that much. Its possible to do this because the Minmatar faction won faction war pretty honestly prior to inferno.

So my question to you is if you think its worth CCP's time to go through everyone's hanger and remove the proceeds of saturday's cashout and turn it back into LP's just so we can collectively jump the store back to tier 5 and cash out again?

IMO its a huge waste of time. And CCP do tend to look sternly on people who waste their time like this.

As I understand, the only benefit seen by the militia as a whole was the LP investment to keep the tier level maxed out. The only way to avoid gaining from this is to not participate in faction warfare. The the objectionable actions taken by the individuals orchestrating and profiting from these acts were the market manipulations and LP farming of inflated items. Considering this, the difference between what the average FW participant made and what they would have made for exactly the same actions had the farming and manipulations never occurred is probably negligible to a point of being less than worth considering on a per person basis and possibly still less than what the actual participants in scheme netted when viewed collectively.