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100MN AB on a Tengu for Plexes?
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Lyell Wolf
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-06-21 22:44:19 UTC
Should I fit the 100MN AB on my Tengu and also change the Sub system that reduces my launcher capacity by 1 for the extra speed in plexes? Or just stick with the 10MN AB so I can have higher DPS output?
Lucas41
SOMACOM
#2 - 2012-06-22 00:40:19 UTC
Bro, are you trolling?

In case your not. Don't gimp your DPS. Higher DPS = faster site clearance time.
Lyell Wolf
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-06-22 01:01:05 UTC
It was a real question. Someone I was asking before told me that using a 100MN AB would be a good idea for a PvE Tengu. Now whether or not he was only talking about a particular aspect of PvE, I don't know.
I just wanted more than one opinion incase you were wondering why I didn't ask him about that.

Also, that would seem like a pathetic and useless trolling question in my opinion.
grassy 420
Anoikis Equilibrium
Honorable Third Party
#4 - 2012-06-22 02:05:10 UTC
Lucas41 wrote:
Bro, are you trolling?

In case your not. Don't gimp your DPS. Higher DPS = faster site clearance time.


yea id keep ur dps. flying faster won't get u threw a plex faster. dps will. a tengu already has descent speed.

i could see maybe in certain fleet ops or solo pvp where the 100ab might give a specific advantage.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2012-06-22 02:56:25 UTC
the 100mn AB will get you going around 1.5km/s, that will reduce incoming damage by a lot. no idea if that would be needed, or if you are better off going with more dps. I would guess most of the time dps wins.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-06-22 20:16:54 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
the 100mn AB will get you going around 1.5km/s, that will reduce incoming damage by a lot. no idea if that would be needed, or if you are better off going with more dps. I would guess most of the time dps wins.



This if you're doing null/low sec sites.

1 less launcher is about 80 dps loss, not a big deal. However your tank increases significantly because :speed:, and Tengu tank is mostly speed.
If someone with fast ship manages to catch you and point/web your ship you still have a very decent top speed to kill the webber and gtfo, with a 10MN AB you're simply dead.Your completion time will be higher for these sites but nothing much more important than your survivability.

High sec or null sec blue paradise lands yep go for the 6 launcher/10MN AB 800dps setup.

brb
Flakey Foont
#7 - 2012-06-22 21:05:38 UTC
On a Tengu in level 4s?? Maybe in the rare instance you have to make some distance, but L4s are not that hard and an afterburner gets you to about 600kms. Tengu stays far away and picks everything off. Mission over.

Hey whatever floats your boat but you will lose a lot of gank.
Lyell Wolf
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-06-22 23:20:09 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
the 100mn AB will get you going around 1.5km/s, that will reduce incoming damage by a lot. no idea if that would be needed, or if you are better off going with more dps. I would guess most of the time dps wins.



This if you're doing null/low sec sites.

1 less launcher is about 80 dps loss, not a big deal. However your tank increases significantly because :speed:, and Tengu tank is mostly speed.
If someone with fast ship manages to catch you and point/web your ship you still have a very decent top speed to kill the webber and gtfo, with a 10MN AB you're simply dead.Your completion time will be higher for these sites but nothing much more important than your survivability.

High sec or null sec blue paradise lands yep go for the 6 launcher/10MN AB 800dps setup.


This is very usefull. I made the mistake of not stating that I intend to use this in null sec.
Autumn Pagoda
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-06-26 20:31:14 UTC
I'm in null sec atm, and have been doing a number of plexes in my Tengu. I had a 10MN II Microwarpdrive on my Tengu, and was nice, but it cost me enough dps to make a difference when shooting your higher bounty BS's. You should also consider pretty much every plex you do has several ships that will use stasis webifiers. So I would recommend going for DPS over speed. I have tanked pretty much every plex without issue in my Tengu without the extra speed. I have only had to warp out once, but I also had about 40 ships firing on me too.

My recommendation, skip the 100MN AB and use that extra med slot for an additional shields, or a cap recharger and add an additional ballistic control module. Get more dps, otherwise you will spend more missiles and more itme trying to get through their shields
Velarra
#10 - 2012-06-27 19:15:39 UTC
Anyone ever try 100mn tengu + Blaster/hybrids? Even if just for the sake of amusement and marginal functionality.

For say L3 standings blitzing if L4/plex travel distances remain impractical
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2012-06-28 18:28:07 UTC
Velarra wrote:
Anyone ever try 100mn tengu + Blaster/hybrids? Even if just for the sake of amusement and marginal functionality.

For say L3 standings blitzing if L4/plex travel distances remain impractical

Ever piloted a ship with an oversized AB? They "steer like a cow". Hence the long range of Heavy missiles allows for sniping.

Blasters would be completely useless. Rails might work, but fitting the hybrid system to a Tengu is considered a crime.
drdxie
#12 - 2012-06-28 22:03:37 UTC
Velarra wrote:
Anyone ever try 100mn tengu + Blaster/hybrids? Even if just for the sake of amusement and marginal functionality.

For say L3 standings blitzing if L4/plex travel distances remain impractical


As above, a 100mn tengu is about as agile as a carrier Shocked a 10mn MWD will get you to maximum speed faster than a 100mn AB, and for PVE the NPC scrams don't turn off your MWD so it isn't a problem.

I did try using balster and mwd on a tengu for blitzing L1-3 for standings gains, didn't work that well. I have found a legion to be most effective when doing this,even against angels. It does well for blitzing as 2 grouped medium pulses with scrorch will insta pop any frig almost all the way to 60km, and l1-l3 are mostly frigs and cruisers.

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