EVE General Discussion

Q: How many economics majors does it take to listen to a player who, with facts and figures laid out, points out that a proposed mechanism change could lead to extreme results

A: At least one more than CCP employ, since we've been through this whole thing at least 4 times already that I know of, and almost certainly several times more.

Seriously, the only thing different about this event is that it was specifically goons who benefitted.

And, well... since everyone knows that goonies are naughty bad wrong, then it's obvious that they need to be punished.

We know the end result, which is an ongoing investigation and ISK deletion.

Duh.....but if you look closely, the core of the whole matter is using market manipulation to get NPC favors! FW made it extra easy and lucrative as playing both sites gives extra control over the outcome! The same thing could be done with insurance to a lesser extend as that too is rooted in in-game market statistics.

I predict CCP will fail at addressing the real long term problem associated with this game flaw. I believe that up to now the GOONs have not wagged the whole economy on purpose. But when a group's monthly operations budget has 10s of trillions ISK and many of its members 100s of billions ISK its normal trade manipulations and for a lark experiments can impact large areas of EVE. And those days of disinterest in EVE wide control may be over.

The problem is that CCP has failed to provide anything meaningful for very wealthy groups to spend their ISK upon -- something MEANINGFUL to an endgame for EVE (when someone can be declared winner and then a fresh player scenario started). EVE is about flying ships to WIN.

*** I suggest player groups be allowed hostile stockmarket takeovers of NPC Empire corporations. That should absorb a good deal of excess liquid capital from huge null sec groups and I think factional warfare would become much more spontaneous.****

CCP should expect that any group with 100s of trillion in excess ISK will be bored with ordinary game play. They have nothing worthwhile to do with all that cash. As i understand it most long term Goons have already paid their subscriptions ahead for years. Ship losses are meaningless. If they all decide to start a fight and log off so their enemies can claim an empty victory...they can just buy new fleets and suffer only the pain of fitting the new ships.

Very few original or current EVE players have a lot of interest in endless SIMS soap opera about who has collected the most clothes....which unfortunately seems to be where CCP thinks EVE should go. Not that a few cool uniforms might not be nice for celebrating victories. Maybe CCP needs to think of branching off a 3rd political-social game for EVE-DUST watchers that is mostly just attached to EVE (gambling on battle outcomes etc) -- instead of changing the purpose of EVE.

How can you delete that which hasn't been created?

What are you, Socrates now?

The answer to your question would be: with the enter key.

Delete created isk that wasn't created using exploits that arent actually exploits

Duh

Because it's not an exploit until CCP says it's an exploit and this isn't an exploit because CCP has not said it's an exploit.

Therefore CCP will not label it an exploit because it isn't one because they haven't labeled it as one.

Because it's not an exploit until CCP says it's an exploit and this isn't an exploit because CCP has not said it's an exploit.

Therefore CCP will not label it an exploit because it isn't one because they haven't labeled it as one.