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Aivonen battle from grunt perspective (19th)
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Gunthar X
Desecration
#181 - 2012-06-22 19:05:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Gunthar X
Salicaz wrote:


You sound really mad.


How exactly would one "sound" mad on a forum post? Oh I bet this is something close to the "come at me bro" and "you mad bro" crap you guys were spouting earlier in the thread. Glad to see how thoughtful and insightful your posts are becoming.

Like this ^



Yea I am just sitting here shaking with rage because of your hurtful comments on this game forum. I think I will go home, grab my favorite blanky and curl up in a ball for a good cry because those mean old WBR guys are upsetting me so much. Or I could be bored and just stirring up crap because it entertains me, but yea I am sure its the first one.
Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#182 - 2012-06-22 19:07:14 UTC
Gunthar X wrote:
Salicaz wrote:


You sound really mad.


How exactly would one "sound" mad on a forum post? Oh I bet this is something close to the "come at me bro" and "you mad bro" crap you guys were spouting earlier in the thread. Glad to see how thoughtful and insightful your posts are becoming.

Like this ^



Yea I am just sitting here shaking with rage because of your hurtful comments on this game forum. I think I will go home, grab my favorite blanky and curl up in a ball for a good cry because those mean old WBR guys are upsetting me so much. Or I could be bored and just stirring up crap because it entertains me, but yea I am sure its the first one.


So does everyone else

BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#183 - 2012-06-22 19:08:06 UTC
Gunthar is mad about 99% f the time.

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#184 - 2012-06-22 19:18:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Tekitha wrote:

the outcome of the fight wasn't my point, my point was the relevance of the various parties to the outcome of it.


I take it by you not even bothering to mention their help, that the Kitchen sink Gallente Militia gang, that showed up to help you was just not worth mentioning?


edit..

btw I just wanted to say.. Can you honestly really say our gang was really that bad.. Comon I know you guys just trying to make your self feel good but really..


We sported 20 Drakes supported by 3 Scimis as the main ships of the line if you will. That is a very standard gang format that was supported by several guys in random inti's & tackle frigs. We had a handful of Talos & a couple other Shield tanked BC's..

While I'm a big fan of purpose built fleets, pretty much every ship in our gang fit into one role or another and considering it was a gang that was put together on short notice with out a lot of planning I'd say it was not so bad.. Not l33t PVP ego pumping awesomeness that you guys seem to have, but it was not a bad Militia Gang that consisted of mixed corps/pick ups and was unplanned.
Gunthar X
Desecration
#185 - 2012-06-22 19:24:10 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
Tekitha wrote:

the outcome of the fight wasn't my point, my point was the relevance of the various parties to the outcome of it.


I take it by you not even bothering to mention their help, that the Kitchen sink Gallente Militia gang, that showed up to help you was just not worth mentioning?



What does that have to do with anything it would in no way help their argument by admitting to that, you just stop with your facts and logic it defies everything they are trying to accomplish here.
Gunthar X
Desecration
#186 - 2012-06-22 19:27:24 UTC
Salicaz wrote:


So does everyone else



You really should stop putting all that effort in, I mean are you even trying right now because if you are please stop and let the competent trolls from your group work your distracting them with your stupidity.
Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#187 - 2012-06-22 19:28:48 UTC
Gunthar X wrote:
Salicaz wrote:


So does everyone else



You really should stop putting all that effort in, I mean are you even trying right now because if you are please stop and let the competent trolls from your group work your distracting them with your stupidity.


Yup, he be mad.
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#188 - 2012-06-22 19:32:13 UTC
Salicaz wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:
Salicaz wrote:


So does everyone else



You really should stop putting all that effort in, I mean are you even trying right now because if you are please stop and let the competent trolls from your group work your distracting them with your stupidity.


Yup, he be mad.


very mad

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Gunthar X
Desecration
#189 - 2012-06-22 19:36:33 UTC
BolsterBomb wrote:
Salicaz wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:
Salicaz wrote:


So does everyone else



You really should stop putting all that effort in, I mean are you even trying right now because if you are please stop and let the competent trolls from your group work your distracting them with your stupidity.


Yup, he be mad.


very mad


I am so mad I am laughing.
Tekitha
Esshulls Retirement Club
#190 - 2012-06-22 19:37:57 UTC
Gunthar X wrote:
Tekitha wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:


So the fleet that killed the HICs before they could tackle the supers and forced two more carriers into the fight were not relevant to the overall battle. I am willing to bet that Snuff and OFF would disagree with this point, I believe that they would state that WBR was less useful to the overall outcome of the battle than the Calmil fleet, but this would not allow you to continue beating your chest so we will ignore that logic for the moment and continue with how awesome you guys are.


granted, the call for you guys to intercept SHDWC on the gate was a great call, I won't deny that (interested to hear who made this call, I'd guess snuff?). However, there was one particularly massive derp on our part which is the main reason the fight went as it did, which was entirely irrelevant of any opposing parties actions.


That was actually the Calmil FC's call once they found out about the fleet. As for your derp, what exactly did you screw up that would have changed that fight? Forget to bring Hic's or did you forget to call another friend to come protect your stuff from those mean old pirates and their Calmil lapdogs?


cyno fail to bring in WBR, they ended up sitting in nenna with a cap fleet trying to cap up to rejump into aivonen. Also the fact taht SHDWC even had to come ia gate (out of bridge range) was a stupid oversight on our part.
Gunthar X
Desecration
#191 - 2012-06-22 19:40:50 UTC
Tekitha wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:
Tekitha wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:


So the fleet that killed the HICs before they could tackle the supers and forced two more carriers into the fight were not relevant to the overall battle. I am willing to bet that Snuff and OFF would disagree with this point, I believe that they would state that WBR was less useful to the overall outcome of the battle than the Calmil fleet, but this would not allow you to continue beating your chest so we will ignore that logic for the moment and continue with how awesome you guys are.


granted, the call for you guys to intercept SHDWC on the gate was a great call, I won't deny that (interested to hear who made this call, I'd guess snuff?). However, there was one particularly massive derp on our part which is the main reason the fight went as it did, which was entirely irrelevant of any opposing parties actions.


That was actually the Calmil FC's call once they found out about the fleet. As for your derp, what exactly did you screw up that would have changed that fight? Forget to bring Hic's or did you forget to call another friend to come protect your stuff from those mean old pirates and their Calmil lapdogs?


cyno fail to bring in WBR, they ended up sitting in nenna with a cap fleet trying to cap up to rejump into aivonen. Also the fact taht SHDWC even had to come ia gate (out of bridge range) was a stupid oversight on our part.



I could see that, if the Hic's would have hit the field with the caps it would have changed it up a little but then again you don't know what else would have hit the field at that point. However it was a good plan.
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#192 - 2012-06-22 19:48:48 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
I take it by you not even bothering to mention their help, that the Kitchen sink Gallente Militia gang, that showed up to help you was just not worth mentioning?


Hush now, they were told on comms before the fight that they were expendable sacrificial lambs whose task was to defend Amarr wartargets. So they had clearly a defined role in the operation and were part of a grand strategy with carefully efted fits only the likes of Alexander the Great could have thought about.

Also, if that's what these people (Julius Foederatus among others) think of their own militia, I wonder what they think of us beneath their mask of "casual and relaxed dudes".
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#193 - 2012-06-22 19:54:33 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
with carefully efted fits only the likes of Alexander the Great could have thought about.


If you're using that fit to troll about bad fittings, please, don't look at the lossboard for your own militia (talking in general, I wasn't at this fight nor have I looked at the board) :D

That fit is half decent.... for a gallente ship :)
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#194 - 2012-06-22 20:01:08 UTC
chatgris wrote:
If you're using that fit to troll about bad fittings, please, don't look at the lossboard for your own militia (talking in general, I wasn't at this fight nor have I looked at the board) :D
That fit is half decent.... for a gallente ship :)


I dont have to when I look on fits of some your FC's....

Oh right, I forgot, Gallente are best pvp'ers in game and everything they do is done after careful analysing and their militia is not at all full of terribad players in equal measure as every other militia.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#195 - 2012-06-22 20:05:22 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
chatgris wrote:
If you're using that fit to troll about bad fittings, please, don't look at the lossboard for your own militia (talking in general, I wasn't at this fight nor have I looked at the board) :D
That fit is half decent.... for a gallente ship :)


I dont have to when I look on fits of some your FC's....

Oh right, I forgot, Gallente are best pvp'ers in game and everything they do is done after careful analysing and their militia is not at all full of terribad players in equal measure as every other militia.


He's an FC? Shocked

And I never said that my militia isn't full of terribad players like every other militia (though you're trying to say in other threads that somehow us Gallente have a higher proportion of actives).

I was however trying to point out that the first fit you linked really wasn't that bad especially in the context of how bad people fit, and if you were trying to insult Gallente with it, the Caldari (and many gallente ofc) fit much much worse.
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#196 - 2012-06-22 20:08:37 UTC
Joanna Ramirez wrote:


they were told on comms before the fight that they were expendable sacrificial lambs whose task was to defend Amarr wartargets.

Most players don't mind because they realize it's a game *le gasp* and ship loss is to be expected in warfare *le double gasp*. I'd have gladly been in the sacrificial lamb fleet were it asked of me. Suicide fleets are a blast.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Gunthar X
Desecration
#197 - 2012-06-22 20:08:42 UTC
chatgris wrote:
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
chatgris wrote:
If you're using that fit to troll about bad fittings, please, don't look at the lossboard for your own militia (talking in general, I wasn't at this fight nor have I looked at the board) :D
That fit is half decent.... for a gallente ship :)


I dont have to when I look on fits of some your FC's....

Oh right, I forgot, Gallente are best pvp'ers in game and everything they do is done after careful analysing and their militia is not at all full of terribad players in equal measure as every other militia.


He's an FC? Shocked

And I never said that my militia isn't full of terribad players like every other militia (though you're trying to say in other threads that somehow us Gallente have a higher proportion of actives).

I was however trying to point out that the first fit you linked really wasn't that bad especially in the context of how bad people fit, and if you were trying to insult Gallente with it, the Caldari (and many gallente ofc) fit much much worse.



He has a point.
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#198 - 2012-06-22 20:12:45 UTC
chatgris wrote:


I was however trying to point out that the first fit you linked really wasn't that bad especially in the context of how bad people fit, and if you were trying to insult Gallente with it, the Caldari (and many gallente ofc) fit much much worse.
If you don't lose a ship with a terrible fit at least twice in your EVE career, you're not having fun.

I haven't lost it yet, but wait till my Battle Navitas dies. :P Lulz will be had.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#199 - 2012-06-22 20:32:01 UTC
Shadow Adanza wrote:
Suicide fleets are a blast.


In my books, there is a clear difference between suicide fleet and "suicide fleet where your own side expects you to die for the glory and benefit of your war targets, because we have bropact and stuff".

Maybe you can answer this with another "le gasp" comment on how can I be so adamant in my view that latter is something no self-respecting pilot should do.
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#200 - 2012-06-22 21:13:22 UTC
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Shadow Adanza wrote:
Suicide fleets are a blast.


In my books, there is a clear difference between suicide fleet and "suicide fleet where your own side expects you to die for the glory and benefit of your war targets, because we have bropact and stuff".

Maybe you can answer this with another "le gasp" comment on how can I be so adamant in my view that latter is something no self-respecting pilot should do.

War targets are only war targets when they're actively against us. ^_^
Working with our friends is a good enough reason for me to put my ship on the line for them.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?