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Am I the only one who doesn't believe a word of Hilmar's blog?
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Holy One
Privat Party
#61 - 2011-10-07 10:57:20 UTC
CCP's financial situation is well publicized. I'm guessing they are having to accept that they can't bring wod and dust to market in time and any further lost revenue in EvE would probably be a nail in the coffin with regard new investment.

Hence 'capitulation' to shore up EvE revenues and cash in on bitter vet/returning accounts once Fis changes are raged about by everyone who was just raging previously and drivinig away new custom etc.

Its all just PR. But then this is a business not a cult.

:)
Othran
Route One
#62 - 2011-10-07 11:04:50 UTC
I don't care whether its true or not.

He had to come here and give us all a grovelling apology. He had to admit that he'd been utterly wrong. If any of you know what Icelanders are like then that HAD to hurt.

What it proves without any doubt is that the much-mocked "protestors" in the summer changed the course of Eve development. If there hadn't been all the rage and adverse publicity then all you'd be getting for Christmas would be some new clothes in the spacebarbie store.

We'll see what is delivered rather than whats promised.
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2011-10-07 11:11:17 UTC
Why on earth should Hilmar post such a blog, when not meaning what he´s saying? Simply don´t post, when you don´t mean it, as the comm will nail you when cheating.

I for one like the dev-blog, and the "new" direction CCP is heading. At least until proven wrong.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#64 - 2011-10-07 11:23:43 UTC
If Hilmars blog does not motivate you to continue subscribing to EVE you should stop.

Now.

Simple as that.

Seriously, if the CEO's future prospects speech, for the company which products you use, cannot motivate you to continue using the products there is something severely wrong and hypocritical on your end if you still continue to do so anyhow.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Rascal deJascal
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2011-10-07 11:38:07 UTC
lolwhine thread.
pipvac
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2011-10-07 11:53:47 UTC
Who was it at CCP who said (paraphrasing) "It's not what they say, but what they do!"? Blink

Quite right...

My alts will remain unsubbed, until they come through on their promises and rhetoric. We've been here before with CCP, and history has made me synical.

It all sounds fascinating. Nothing really on sov mechanics which is a worry,. But maybe the rebalancing will make that unecessary. We will see (or not).
T-Jay Charante
Black Sun Industry and Research
#67 - 2011-10-07 12:01:48 UTC
Words of a desperate man.

With the realization that EVEs last hope to attract new blood, into an 8 year old game, has been an unmitigated failure. Like it or hate it, Incarna opened the door (no pun intended) to a much wider audience. Any hope of new player retention has evaporated with yet another shift in direction, from a company that has apparently lost its way.

With so many 'triple A' MMO releases on the horizon the panic button has been firmly hit.

In short, with numbers falling, with so many veteran players Plexing accounts and so little new player retention, where will the future monthly revenue come from to keep CCP afloat?
H3lljump3r
Assembly of Idiosyncratic and Cantankerous Cynics
#68 - 2011-10-07 12:15:45 UTC
Jason1138 wrote:
So am i the bitterest of bitter vets or is that pretty much what everyone else is thinking too?


I don't often grace these forums, and certainly not General Discussion, but as a semi-casual player I really didn't care much about the whole fuss. Like any player I wanted them to fix the broken aspects of the game, but as long as they weren't breaking existing things that worked I didn't mind new useless features like fancy station environments. However I do believe that all your bitching has paid off, and Hilmar is now actually dedicated to improving the core "flying in space" mechanics, as well as continuing to evolve EVE towards his walking in stations vision.
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2011-10-07 12:22:29 UTC
I don't understand why people are whining so much about this. Maybe this is because I only play for like 5/6 months now and actually enjoy the game I am playing. So many cynical old farts here lol. Try looking at the good things for once instead of whining every 5 seconds about everything on this forum. Just try it for once it might help.

Oh and I believe it is tradition here so to all the people that can't stop complaining.
Can I has your stuff this winter pl0x???

[i]~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~   ~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~[/i]
T-Jay Charante
Black Sun Industry and Research
#70 - 2011-10-07 12:27:13 UTC
Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:
I don't understand why people are whining so much about this. Maybe this is because I only play for like 5/6 months now and actually enjoy the game I am playing. So many cynical old farts here lol. Try looking at the good things for once instead of whining every 5 seconds about everything on this forum. Just try it for once it might help.

Oh and I believe it is tradition here so to all the people that can't stop complaining.
Can I has your stuff this winter pl0x???


Whining about people whining doesn't make it right Straight
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2011-10-07 12:29:56 UTC
T-Jay Charante wrote:
Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:
I don't understand why people are whining so much about this. Maybe this is because I only play for like 5/6 months now and actually enjoy the game I am playing. So many cynical old farts here lol. Try looking at the good things for once instead of whining every 5 seconds about everything on this forum. Just try it for once it might help.

Oh and I believe it is tradition here so to all the people that can't stop complaining.
Can I has your stuff this winter pl0x???


Whining about people whining doesn't make it right Straight


Well it worked for everybody else (Ship spinning is coming back)

Might give it a try as well Big smile

[i]~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~   ~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~[/i]
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#72 - 2011-10-07 12:35:15 UTC
T-Jay Charante wrote:


In short, with numbers falling, with so many veteran players Plexing accounts and so little new player retention, where will the future monthly revenue come from to keep CCP afloat?



CCP don't care if you pay for your account with PLEX or cash, because, believe it or not, somebody somewhere has paid RL money for the PLEX.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#73 - 2011-10-07 12:36:47 UTC
I suggest you re-read it, and then re-read it again. There is a level of honesty there that is VERY RARE for CCP.

Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Mai Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#74 - 2011-10-07 13:00:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mai Kusoni
Seems to me Hilmar has has known what he was doing since the beginning.

"I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say."

It was not the forum crying or CSM ('what they say') that had him change course. It was the loss of subscriptions ('what they do').

He had planned for this from the start (plan B) as shown in his above statement. No one plans a large scale change without a risk-assessment and back-out plan beforehand. The rest is damage control and PR.

Keep patting yourselves on the back.

Believe it or not, he is smarter than you want to admit. Cool

Hilmar +1

EDIT: And no I do not agree with everything CCP has done but I give credit where it is due. I have been looking forward to WiS for a long time but I feel it would have been better as an option until it was developed and released to a point it was functional and useful. Remember for awhile we had the new graphics and 'classic', chosen by the player? Same idea, install WiS (or maybe just CQ) or not... player choice.
T-Jay Charante
Black Sun Industry and Research
#75 - 2011-10-07 13:03:14 UTC  |  Edited by: T-Jay Charante
Rodj Blake wrote:
T-Jay Charante wrote:


In short, with numbers falling, with so many veteran players Plexing accounts and so little new player retention, where will the future monthly revenue come from to keep CCP afloat?



CCP don't care if you pay for your account with PLEX or cash, because, believe it or not, somebody somewhere has paid RL money for the PLEX.


Quote:
has paid
 as in past tense. My question is where will the future revenue come from.
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2011-10-07 13:34:35 UTC
T-Jay Charante wrote:
Incarna opened the door (no pun intended)


Lol

Golem • CCP In-Game Event 2011.11.23 • Nyio • Grenade?
Des Aray
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#77 - 2011-10-07 13:43:41 UTC
OP,
Simple solution to your whine. Unsubscribe and biomass. I'm so sick of this crap.
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#78 - 2011-10-07 13:53:25 UTC
words writen by the pr deparment stamped with his name.

that was my thoughts on reading that blog

OMG when can i get a pic here
Des Aray
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#79 - 2011-10-07 13:59:46 UTC
Smoking Blunts wrote:
words writen by the pr deparment stamped with his name.

that was my thoughts on reading that blog


at least some attempt is being made to reconnect with the eve community.
You obviously have no faith in ccp so.... unsubscribe and biomass. Bye o/
heheheh
Phoenix Club
#80 - 2011-10-07 14:37:22 UTC
Bitter. yes, Vet, no.