EVE General Discussion

When your ship is destroyed you lose the ship. It's like.. dunno.. when killing your character in WoW would first mean to destroy the armor. Then you get a chance to get your naked self (in eve your pod) out (depending on the circumstances this chance might be very small).
If you fail to get out, the "respawn" thing you know from other MMOs gets to work. Just that you will lose any implant you put into your character's head, too, which might be quite expensive.

I don't know any other MMO (no "recent" one anyway. Recent being WoW and later) where there's such a penalty for destruction/death.

Your skills are totally different than in most MMOs. No classes. you can learn everything. but it costs time. So it's advisable to specialize to learn something properly before branching out. It's too big a topic to explain here I think.

Almost everything you'll ever possess will be created by players, and at some point destroyed by players, driving a huge economy.

The galaxy is huge, too. Most MMOs lead you around on quests until you have seen the whole world when you hit max-level.
No max-level here, and I don't know if there is a single person in this game which has visited every solar system there is.

These are some things that came to my mind. There is more.


Edit:
One point I consider very important: You need to find something you want to do in this universe for yourself. The game gives you opportunities, but doesn't tell you what to do. If you don't find something to do for yourself, you'll likely get bored.
Helpful is also finding other people with similar goals to try reaching them together.
But be careful, you can screwed by people pretty badly if you are not.

You might get an answer, then again the wow sucks army should be around soon. It's more complex, that's a plus to some. Actions by groups can influence the world. Looks hell of a lot better, lots more to do, it's quite unique, dive it and find out. Btw it also has quite a few scammers who get approval from other scammers, so it has an above average size "community" of the poorly socialized types.

Well, here are some:

*Usually MMOs have a persistent world with prepared content. Eve is a "sandbox" for the players and just has some basic lore and NPC's to make money of. Outside of empire only player actions form the game world. So eve has no pre made content, but a player written history.

* Usually you are tied to a level system and most people try to catch up to the "end content" by mindlessly grinding. In eve you cant grind xp. progress is tied to real time.

* There is no "end content" contrary what some null sec alliances say. Just a "current top content" in different fields. Most prominent , but not the only one is getting sovereignty and wield military and economic campaigns. Or corner a market at the stock exchange, or discover new wormholes, or build the strongest industry, or ... You can even be a reporter who tries to summarize what happens in different parts of the eve cluster (over 5000 systems ...)

I am quite sure there are more.

Edit: Oh and twelve year olds do not rule pvp due to superior hand-eye coordination. And no silly jumping too.

Good day!

I'm not going into details since I consider myself a newbie and may get some of the info wrong

However, basically Eve differs from other MMOs in several ways, most notably in these areas:-

1) How you progress - in other MMOs you start from the lowest level, gain experience (XP) and level up once you hit a certain amount. Your level determines what you can or cannot do (certain zones are off-limits, certain mobs are death-unto-you, some gears may be unequippable) and you measure your progress by your level.

In Eve there is no such thing as XP. You start with a number of skillpoints and you train these skillpoints (and acquire additional skills via skillbooks) to be able to do what you want. For example, you start as Caldari and can only pilot some Caldari frigates. To be able to pilot better Caldari ships (Cruisers, Battlecruisers etc) you need to train your skillsto fulfill the requirement to pilot these ships. And it's not limited to ships - it applies to everything: equipments, social skills, market and industry etc.

Plus, skills train in real time so you still accumulate them even when you're logged out.

2) What you do - in other MMOs you follow the storyline(s) and these are normally done via quests. You do one quest, they lead to another and another, pretty much a linear path towards a conclusion. Most of the time you have no influence on the outcome and are doing it just to see how the storyline progress.

In Eve you can choose whether to do "quests" (they're called missions in Eve) or strike out on your own path. Basically after doing your starter tutorial missions, you can choose never to do another mission in your entire Eve life and still be able to make progress in the game.

Which brings us to a fundamental difference between Eve and other MMOs - you choose what you want to do in Eve rather than being told what you have to do. You can be a manufacturer, building ships/modules for use by other players. You can be a pirate, killing other unwary players and profitting from their demise. You can be a miner, slaving away at asteroids and getting resources to supply to the market. You can be a missioner, running missions for your chosen agents for monetary rewards, loyalty points and increased standings/reputations.

Careful, NeX (to some degree) does qualify as something like this. It's one of many reasons folks got unhappy over it.

@ OP - Can't answer your question direct, since my only experience is with Travian (detached combat, sharded) and Second Life (single 'shard' but aimed as a social building platform).

I've always felt interaction with the other players/characters will trump any major interaction with an NPC group (my time in Uru being an extreme example of this). In Eve this is magnified and taken to the next level. It's not for everyone (yet?), but if you can work your head around its complexity (or you find something - preferably several - that interests you), it can be very interesting for most.

This sums it up perfectly

Only thing i can add is for you to take time to learn all the basics first and find yourself a good player corporation that interest you, don t join a industrial corp if your interests are pvp. Or vice versa . A good corporation will help its newer members as. Muchthey can and make it easier for them to feel comfortable with the sandbox
Rome wasn t build in a day so don t let the possibilities of the sandbox scare you

To succeed in Eve you need to work out how to do stuff, you need to innovate, and you need to outwit your fellow players.

To succeed in most other MMOs you need to do what the game tells you to do.

Well done, You have just proved your own point.

The Eve is perfect, defense force arrives.

How is picking apart your nonsensical argument about players turning into a EVE defense force?