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T2BPO why they should be removed and how.

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shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#601 - 2012-06-18 18:29:22 UTC  |  Edited by: shar'ra matcevsovski
Kara Books wrote:

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Cheaper than a Titan BPO, too.


I rather have the titan, more fun =)


Titan BPO does not mean he gets a free titan, Mr. Badass

should read more carefully before you drop your extremly usefull oneliner, next time

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#602 - 2012-06-18 19:37:15 UTC
Kara Books wrote:

I rather have the titan, more fun =)


Titan BPCs have gotten so cheap now, I don't think it's worth it. Back when they were 15-20b per copy, owning a BPO was awesome.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Toramii
Le Moulin Rouge
#603 - 2012-06-19 21:20:23 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:

2. ... Information about the workings of the lottery were also released to key players. This information was regarding the amount of BPO's in each individual lottery and how many tickets were participating. This gave key players insight into which lottery to enter giving them far greater chances of obtaining T2BPO's...


Do you know that information about the numbers and types of BPO's seeded was publically available on the forums during the lotteryQuestion
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#604 - 2012-06-20 07:34:21 UTC
Toramii wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:

2. ... Information about the workings of the lottery were also released to key players. This information was regarding the amount of BPO's in each individual lottery and how many tickets were participating. This gave key players insight into which lottery to enter giving them far greater chances of obtaining T2BPO's...


Do you know that information about the numbers and types of BPO's seeded was publically available on the forums during the lotteryQuestion


He defines "Key Players" as "Anyone who had a Sub during the lottery time period"

Do try to keep up. It's more fun when everyone has the same pair of pants on their head.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#605 - 2012-06-20 18:58:00 UTC
Salo Aldeland wrote:
Dude seriously hates pie.


I laugh every time I read this.
Ms Bax
Union Of EVE
#606 - 2012-06-21 04:22:00 UTC
This thread is really amusing.

Brewlar is a great troll (or completely nuts).
Salo Aldeland
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#607 - 2012-06-21 13:37:30 UTC
Ms Bax wrote:
This thread is really amusing.

Brewlar is a great troll (or completely nuts).


Like I said, he's either the biggest idiot or the best troll I've seen in at least a decade. And when find a mountain like that, you damn well climb it.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#608 - 2012-06-21 21:24:16 UTC
Ms Bax wrote:
This thread is really amusing.
Brewlar is a great troll (or completely nuts).

If I wouldn't have been up to my neck and beyond in RL work for the past 2++ weeks, I would have have totally answered in here more often.

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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#609 - 2012-06-21 22:59:47 UTC
Kinda amusing how CCP is threatning to remove hard won and worked ISK from a goon LP and market manipulation scheme when CCP itself was dumping T2BPO's into the hands of chosen players that netted them billions of ISK for zero effort.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#610 - 2012-06-21 23:16:38 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Kinda amusing how CCP is threatning to remove hard won and worked ISK from a goon LP and market manipulation scheme when CCP itself was dumping T2BPO's into the hands of chosen players that netted them billions of ISK for zero effort.


Huh?

Also, explain how T2BPOs were placed into the hands of *chosen* players as opposed to anyone who played the lottery, and explain how they're zero effort.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#611 - 2012-06-22 01:12:03 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Kinda amusing how CCP is threatning to remove hard won and worked ISK from a goon LP and market manipulation scheme when CCP itself was dumping T2BPO's into the hands of chosen players that netted them billions of ISK for zero effort.


Huh?

Also, explain how T2BPOs were placed into the hands of *chosen* players as opposed to anyone who played the lottery, and explain how they're zero effort.


Oh, come on, now, you've seen the protocol. Change the subject, make outrageous claims, back the claims up with statements that make no sense and proclaim that everyone agrees.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#612 - 2012-06-22 01:31:32 UTC
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Kinda amusing how CCP is threatning to remove hard won and worked ISK from a goon LP and market manipulation scheme when CCP itself was dumping T2BPO's into the hands of chosen players that netted them billions of ISK for zero effort.


Huh?

Also, explain how T2BPOs were placed into the hands of *chosen* players as opposed to anyone who played the lottery, and explain how they're zero effort.


Oh, come on, now, you've seen the protocol. Change the subject, make outrageous claims, back the claims up with statements that make no sense and proclaim that everyone agrees.


Actually, just found the Goon LP thing. It's freaking hilarious, and CCP did say they're considering some undisclosed thing to deal with it. They didn't threaten anything.

I do think the first clause of that post was the closest thing to a truth that Brewlar's expressed in this thread.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#613 - 2012-06-22 02:11:44 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Kinda amusing how CCP is threatning to remove hard won and worked ISK from a goon LP and market manipulation scheme when CCP itself was dumping T2BPO's into the hands of chosen players that netted them billions of ISK for zero effort.


Huh?

Also, explain how T2BPOs were placed into the hands of *chosen* players as opposed to anyone who played the lottery, and explain how they're zero effort.


Way back when, once upon a time, there where some Devs who litarally gave out BPO's to some... undisclosed parties, This was quiqly found out, proven and spread across new eden like wildfire, Never the less, in very short order, a few people where fired and some acounts where banned/deleted, taking the Unfair BPO's out of the game, forever (suposently), Dont know the exact details, but thats the word on the streets.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#614 - 2012-06-22 02:19:33 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Kinda amusing how CCP is threatning to remove hard won and worked ISK from a goon LP and market manipulation scheme when CCP itself was dumping T2BPO's into the hands of chosen players that netted them billions of ISK for zero effort.


Huh?

Also, explain how T2BPOs were placed into the hands of *chosen* players as opposed to anyone who played the lottery, and explain how they're zero effort.


Way back when, once upon a time, there where some Devs who litarally gave out BPO's to some... undisclosed parties, This was quiqly found out, proven and spread across new eden like wildfire, Never the less, in very short order, a few people where fired and some acounts where banned/deleted, taking the Unfair BPO's out of the game, forever (suposently), Dont know the exact details, but thats the word on the streets.


Yes, the T20 incident (PS, T20 is still working at CCP last I checked), which resulted in those BPOs being removed from the game, which means that any market effects that those BPOs caused have long since disappeared.

And Brewlar said "netted" which implies that the players in question got to keep anything.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#615 - 2012-06-22 10:00:54 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Kinda amusing how CCP is threatning to remove hard won and worked ISK from a goon LP and market manipulation scheme when CCP itself was dumping T2BPO's into the hands of chosen players that netted them billions of ISK for zero effort.


yep, btw as a Owner of T2 BPO`s I obviously know all the dev's and they told me, that they are not listening to your moaning anymore, even tho they know your 100% right, they need a way to risk their job by giving certain ppl a advantage.

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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#616 - 2012-06-22 11:12:44 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:


yep, btw as a Owner of T2 BPO`s I obviously know all the dev's and they told me, that they are not listening to your moaning anymore, even tho they know your 100% right, they need a way to risk their job by giving certain ppl a advantage.


I don't think anyone here would suggest that the Devs think T2BPO was a good idea or we'd have more T2BPO lottery for the new T2 items and T3. T2BPO lottery, T20 and the fact that invention has lower ME than a T2BPO is moronic and the Devs need to get off their ass stop moaning about goons playing the game better than their friends and fix T2BPO and invention.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#617 - 2012-06-22 15:22:25 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:


yep, btw as a Owner of T2 BPO`s I obviously know all the dev's and they told me, that they are not listening to your moaning anymore, even tho they know your 100% right, they need a way to risk their job by giving certain ppl a advantage.


I don't think anyone here would suggest that the Devs think T2BPO was a good idea or we'd have more T2BPO lottery for the new T2 items and T3. T2BPO lottery, T20 and the fact that invention has lower ME than a T2BPO is moronic and the Devs need to get off their ass stop moaning about goons playing the game better than their friends and fix T2BPO and invention.


Does the inefficiency of invention stop people from making money from invention?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#618 - 2012-06-22 15:33:16 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:


I don't think anyone here would suggest that the Devs think T2BPO was a good idea


what?QuestionQuestion

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Ore Bunny
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#619 - 2012-06-22 16:35:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ore Bunny
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:

the fact that invention has lower ME than a T2BPO is moronic


..no its not.

T2 BPOs give you a quite low hard limit on how much you can build with them, so they have to have a better ME to be of any use.
Invention doesnt have a limit on how many items( aka profit) you can make, wich at the end gives invention a much better potencial.


seriously if your not able to get that you should stop posting, its getting ridiculous.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#620 - 2012-06-22 17:29:25 UTC
Yeah Joy, T2BPO undercutting my manufcature and invention cost lucky for me I have the potential to blow billions of ISK away with multiple BPC's in mutliple slots while the T2BPO is stuck making zero effort profit in one slot. Joy for T2BPO and legacy game content that is no longer avalible to noobs unless they want to spend thousands of dollars, yeah CCP joy.

Sony I hope you're reading this.