EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi all,

Total noob here so forgive me if I say something stupid, don't hit - explain :)

I want to move to lowsec or even better to nullsec to experience full spectrum of dark side of Eve. You know, those things that all noobs are warned about. I don't care if I lose a ship or ten of them, I don't want to sit in hisec mining or trading or whatever and wait until my skills will be good enough. From what I read you are never ready until you try it and since it is a game not real life what possibly really bad can happen? They blow up my ship and pod me? Pfff, big deal.

The truth is I don't know where to go. I made few trips into 0.0 systems and to be honest I am a little bit disappointed. Nobody was there and even if somebody occurred nobody tried anything with me. On the other hand I did not try to pick a fight either so maybe that's the reason :) Or maybe I just happen to be lucky or my random choice of destination was not so good.

So I'd like to go where pvp is easy to find and you have to fight with others on daily basis. Can anybody recommend some suitable area for me to start my life in da hood? I really like my rifter and would like to keep using them so it would be nice to have some shopping center near by to be able to replace my gear :)

I don't want to join any corp or militia for now so please don't throw 'join nullsec corp' solutions on me. At least if that is not the only way to get there.

Any help will be appreciated, thanks.

Ps. if somebody is interested my skills are available here

Pessimistic is good, less disappointments later :)

Ok, you say there is no decent market there? So what, bad guys do shopping in safer places? No black market/flee market/kill or be killed while bargaining market? That sucks. I thought low/nullsec is relatively the same as hisec regarding market opportunities only easier to get knife in your belly.

Seems I have to reconsider my attitude toward an idea of corping up or just stay in hisec and just make trips looking for troubles.

It's not that there aren't buyers it's that no trader wants to risk their shipments for such a small profit margin.

OP, it sounds like you're more interested in learning PvP than going to low or null sec. I would suggest joining one of the Corporation of RvB (Red Federation or Blue Repubic). You will learn a hell of a lot about small gang warfare, you can solo if you want and your low skill point won't be a problem. There are no compulsory activities and we occasionally roam to low and null sec too, so you will get a grasp of the mechanics of those areas too.

Alliances have market hubs and JF services and lone ppl in rifters dont. And yes your impression of corps in Eve is twisted and false.

As said above, join a corporation, it will make things easier.

A few things about what you said :

- Nullsec being dead : If you want action, go to lowsec. PvP players prefer to stay to lowsec systems that border highsec to get back to safety should trouble happen. Unless you join an active pvp corporation in nullsec. If you want some nice pvp action without joining an hardcore corp, stick to lowsec.

- Waiting for skills to be high enough to go pvp. If someone ever told you that you need to get a minimum of SP to go out there, he is a fool. All you need is to learn the use of basic tools like the directional scanner, setting up your overview, safety mesures like always align so that you can escape if need be, using safe spots, ect... These can be learned quickly and they are loads of tutorial videos outthere. Take to time to learn these things than go to lowsec. Even a small frigate can be deadly.

- Good thing you don't mind loosing ships, because you will. That's part of doing solo pvp in eve, so you should get used to it. The more you die, the more you learn and adapt. As experience grow you will die less. Gang PvP is less dangerous, as you have a lesser chance to be the primary target, and you can have some logisitic support to stay alive.

- Don't focus too much on damage, if you plan to survive alone in lowsec, you need to be able to tank well.

Fly safe o7

@ Nephti

I stumbled upon link to Flight of dragons few times already but never actually followed it. From quick look at few posts it seems a nice reading material so thanks for recommendation.


@ Aston

I don't have an intention to wait until my skills will be high enough to do something. I think that school is good but getting your hands dirty as soon as possible is most important. practice makes perfect not memorizing graphs and numbers.

I don't mind losing ships mainly because I consider it part of a game. Like in chess some pawns have to be sacrificed. Difference is in chess you play with one opponent and surprises come from tactics not from unknown possibilities of pawns :)

Frankly null-sec isn't that exciting. It's long periods of boredom and desolation punctuated by wtfpwnt-gatecamps.

Want to see the real dark side of EVE? Screw with a carebear in high sec. Get aggression to some miners or a missioner and kill them.

The things they say to you then, that is the dark side of EVE.

Gernerally the "decent markets" are in the places in 0.0 where lots of people are. Since people in 0.0 who aren't in your corp/alliance are by definition hostile, you may find it difficult to access these markets. And of course the markets in Sovereign space 0.0 are inaccesible to you anyway, since the station owners can control who docks there (ie: not you).

I strongly second the suggestion of joining a corp if you're going to venture out of hi-sec. There are a huge number of things you need to know in order to thrive in nullsec. Learning them by yourself might be fine, but it'll be a long, slow process, and pretty much every learning experience will cost you a ship and probably a pod too.

I would say that not all corps are good corps, and you should expect to try a few before you find the right corp for you. If you join one and you find that you don't feel at home there after a couple of weeks, then do yourself a favour and find another. You don't need to burn any bridges and be rude or abusive to them; a simple "This corp isn't working out for me, thanks for giving me a chance, goodbye" is fine. But if you do decide to leave a corp, get your stuff out before you tell them you're leaving. For every thoughtful, competent corp leader out there, there is also a vindictive, immature impulsive one. Sometimes you'll be in a good corp with just one guy in it that you can't stand.

Anyway if you find yourself in a corp you don't like, it's not the end of the world and it certainly shouldn't be the end of your attempt to live in 0.0. Just move on and try again.