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Goons 4x4ing through the Sandbox - Market Manipulation on a Grand Scale

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#461 - 2012-06-21 21:10:51 UTC
Aryth wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Sheynan wrote:
Congratulations for the money Smile

Anyway to clarify something this was after all just affecting the financial upgrade of FW.

No systems were won or lost easier due to this.
(So stop gloating about that Goons)

This post made me think of a very good question for Aryth & crew:

Did this skyrocket your standings as a by-product?

Thanks in advance for the tip, either way.


No, it doesn't impact your standings at all.

Maybe CCP has the rewards systems for PVP and Plexing backwards, then?

I wonder what the FW crowd think.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Willie Horton
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#462 - 2012-06-21 21:11:38 UTC
Ezra Tair wrote:
Well. If CCP does not remove the isk. I'm sure you can do some really good market manipulation and ruin the game as has been the goal for some time now, yes?



If CCP does remove the isk, I wonder how things will go.


Not that I like guys that made post ,but for this they should remove some of their dev''s not isk.This is really slap in face and humiliating to some point.

It is ok to make some changes and include something new ,but if you do that without thinking properly than ......this happens.

After UI fail and some "balancing" (perfect example new Merlin ) they should really think next time.

Don't get me wrong they do great stuff too ,but some parts are failing badly .
Bart Wart
#463 - 2012-06-21 21:12:54 UTC
*slow clap* Well done CCP. Well done. Except for the graphics team, you managed to royally F'up everything in Inferno. Some people might call this gross incompetence. How is it that certain people still have jobs over there?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#464 - 2012-06-21 21:13:27 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The antisemitism does need to stop though, I'm not one for political correctness normally but wow this is offensive.

For something to be anti-semitic, there has to be vitriol involved. Just saying the word "jew" isn't anti-semitism.

Basically, what you're doing is probably more anti-semitic than what they're doing, since they're using A Word, and you're assigning bad connotations and intentions to said word.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
SamGromoff
Goonbine Honnete Ober Advancer Mercantiles
Goonswarm Federation
#465 - 2012-06-21 21:17:14 UTC
I am Jewish IRL (unironically) and a Jewbal member. Relax, it's an irony thing.
Aemonchichi
Limited Access
#466 - 2012-06-21 21:17:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Aemonchichi
well done ccp 8) this addon is truly an INFERNO

and what was the words in the trailer ? its all about numbers ? lulz
Veng3ance
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#467 - 2012-06-21 21:19:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Veng3ance
Wait this didn't create isk? Mostly took it from mission runners? And destroyed a bunch of isk?

Awesome! I approve.
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#468 - 2012-06-21 21:21:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Haifisch Zahne
REMOVED TO PROTEST CCP's Community Censorship Protocol ("CCCP").
Triple Entendre
VoidSpaceTripleInc
#469 - 2012-06-21 21:23:20 UTC
Dramaticus wrote:


We killed the villains(pubbies) but occasionally you get struck by lightning when doing the **** yeah dance while holding a golf club.


This is possibly one of the simplest. yet greatest quotes to ever grace these forums.
Forum Puppet
Black Wormholes of Apocrypha
TOGETHER WE STAND
#470 - 2012-06-21 21:24:38 UTC
Willie Horton wrote:

Not that I like guys that made post ,but for this they should remove some of their dev''s not isk.This is really slap in face and humiliating to some point.



What this story actually proves :

1. it pays up to be a goon in eve. CCP's "bugs" will not result in any retribution against you if youre a goon. remember the slip with planetary components ? they were all transformed in "broken" and isk was not paid back. See if they will take any measure against goons now. They even feel so confident that they brag about it on the forums !

2. goons really have no RL. I am really fortunate if i get to play half an hour per day ( not that the late changes in eve made anything to prevent from getting bored if i play more ). I mean really, those guys have nothing else better to do than to grind spreadsheets and brainstorm over how to get advantage of CCPs mistakes ? I still think this is a joke - otherwise i feel very sorry for them.
Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#471 - 2012-06-21 21:27:28 UTC
Forum Puppet wrote:
Willie Horton wrote:

Not that I like guys that made post ,but for this they should remove some of their dev''s not isk.This is really slap in face and humiliating to some point.



What this story actually proves :

1. it pays up to be a goon in eve. CCP's "bugs" will not result in any retribution against you if youre a goon. remember the slip with planetary components ? they were all transformed in "broken" and isk was not paid back. See if they will take any measure against goons now. They even feel so confident that they brag about it on the forums !

2. goons really have no RL. I am really fortunate if i get to play half an hour per day ( not that the late changes in eve made anything to prevent from getting bored if i play more ). I mean really, those guys have nothing else better to do than to grind spreadsheets and brainstorm over how to get advantage of CCPs mistakes ? I still think this is a joke - otherwise i feel very sorry for them.


not to accuse you of being a forum puppet, but uh

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#472 - 2012-06-21 21:28:14 UTC
Forum Puppet wrote:

2. goons really have no RL. I am really fortunate if i get to play half an hour per day ( not that the late changes in eve made anything to prevent from getting bored if i play more ).

__/
:smith:
gulftobay
Mesotopia
#473 - 2012-06-21 21:28:24 UTC
Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base.
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#474 - 2012-06-21 21:28:59 UTC
Fix Lag wrote:
Forum Puppet wrote:
Willie Horton wrote:

Not that I like guys that made post ,but for this they should remove some of their dev''s not isk.This is really slap in face and humiliating to some point.



What this story actually proves :

1. it pays up to be a goon in eve. CCP's "bugs" will not result in any retribution against you if youre a goon. remember the slip with planetary components ? they were all transformed in "broken" and isk was not paid back. See if they will take any measure against goons now. They even feel so confident that they brag about it on the forums !

2. goons really have no RL. I am really fortunate if i get to play half an hour per day ( not that the late changes in eve made anything to prevent from getting bored if i play more ). I mean really, those guys have nothing else better to do than to grind spreadsheets and brainstorm over how to get advantage of CCPs mistakes ? I still think this is a joke - otherwise i feel very sorry for them.


not to accuse you of being a forum puppet, but uh


i see what you did there sir
abitrubbish
Goosefleet
Gooseflock Featheration
#475 - 2012-06-21 21:29:34 UTC
Forum Puppet wrote:
Willie Horton wrote:

Not that I like guys that made post ,but for this they should remove some of their dev''s not isk.This is really slap in face and humiliating to some point.



What this story actually proves :

1. it pays up to be a goon in eve. CCP's "bugs" will not result in any retribution against you if youre a goon. remember the slip with planetary components ? they were all transformed in "broken" and isk was not paid back. See if they will take any measure against goons now. They even feel so confident that they brag about it on the forums !

2. goons really have no RL. I am really fortunate if i get to play half an hour per day ( not that the late changes in eve made anything to prevent from getting bored if i play more ). I mean really, those guys have nothing else better to do than to grind spreadsheets and brainstorm over how to get advantage of CCPs mistakes ? I still think this is a joke - otherwise i feel very sorry for them.



Well done for (possibly) playing a game less than other people.
Even better done for using some of that limited time to make a numbered post saying how little it matters to you.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#476 - 2012-06-21 21:30:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Aryth
Forum Puppet wrote:
Willie Horton wrote:

Not that I like guys that made post ,but for this they should remove some of their dev''s not isk.This is really slap in face and humiliating to some point.



What this story actually proves :

1. it pays up to be a goon in eve. CCP's "bugs" will not result in any retribution against you if youre a goon. remember the slip with planetary components ? they were all transformed in "broken" and isk was not paid back. See if they will take any measure against goons now. They even feel so confident that they brag about it on the forums !
.


Me giving you this history may only serve to enrage you more. But here goes anyway.

Goons were heavily invested in components that were later to be rendered .broken

We forsaw that CCP would need to do that for the health of the game. So some of the same goons involved in this, instead made outposts with those components and had them in production lines making outputs before CCP did that nerf.
The difference between that and this is, components were clearly going to break the game for years. This flushes out within weeks. In the grand scheme of things, we kept this very low key compared to how it could have gone. It would not have been healthy for the game otherwise.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#477 - 2012-06-21 21:31:09 UTC
Nicely done, congratulations gentlemen.

I appreciate that you tipped off CCP after making your fortunes, something you didn't necessarily have to do.

My new Amarr FW alt should become a lot more interesting shortly. Smile

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Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#478 - 2012-06-21 21:32:59 UTC
CCP should just fix the loophole and move on. They programed the game, released the patch and messed it up. Its CCPs fault. Goons just pointed it out.


tl;dr

goons keep rewards
ccp fixes broken game with broken patch.
ChYph3r
Omni Defense Corp.
#479 - 2012-06-21 21:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ChYph3r
I support my Local Goonion!


But not financially seems they have more than enough.

Can we get FULL Health and Dental benefits now?

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Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#480 - 2012-06-21 21:36:02 UTC
Time to retire to a life of never ending ship versus ships.

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ！[/u]