EVE General Discussion

“Now, most of you will think “So what? Welcome to EVE.” and I would agree if not for the fact that I am ... or at least was roleplaying as a capsuleer who, similarly to Amarr royalty, refuses to use cloning technology. The financial loss and the subtracted skillpoints (I hadn’t upgraded my clone for aforementioned RPing reasons) are not what bothers me - they are minimal anyway. It is this devastating loss of purpose for this character.” ← there, and here → “Why should they believe that I have no valuables? Maybe because I’m new, flying a ship with virtually no cargo hold?”

Official lore. Having your original brain fried is pretty much a part of the capsuleer creation process.

Here's the thing: you've got to understand and accept that the pirates wandering through low-sec and null-sec are not gentlemen of fortune in the Long John Silver/Errol Flynn mold. They're cruel, sadistic, opportunistic sociopaths who will be indifferent to pleas for mercy on a good day. Think more like the modern pirates preying off the African coasts. Anything to them is a potential score; they'll burn down anything down to a shuttlecraft that crosses their guns. And for all they knew, that Imicus might have been holding a billion ISK or more worth of loot; sometimes people will use light frigates as fast couriers to get small stuff from point A to point B. Or perhaps the Imicus might have been a scout for a rival pirate gang or a militia fleet looking to pick up some pirate scalps; it's been known to happen.

Pirate podkills happen to all of us at some point - systems like Aunenen and Rancer are notorious for pirates looking for any targets of opportunities. Sometimes you'll get ransomed - someone once demanded 75 million ISK to not blow up my pod in Rancer, which I didn't happen to have at the time.

EVE is full of sociopaths like that. It's also full of decent folk who, if you stumble into the right group, will watch your back, take you under their wings, and shepherd you through the growing pains in this merciless universe.

Who knows? Maybe sometime soon, you'll be flying an Imicus that looks like a juicy target ... only you'll have a squadron of battlecruisers standing by to warp in on you as backup and shoot the pirates' fancy ships out from under them.

It's been known to happen.

Limitations? What do you mean?

How is that asking for respect of my RPing? I was merely trying to understand what they got out of killing me. Malcanis explained that now. I never said that I was mad about them not “respecting” my choice not to use clones. This would be fucking retarded. It was the seemingly baseless and mean ambush that annoyed me.


Could you quote the relevant part? I was already familiar with that article and now rereading it I did not find any such passage either. Did I miss it or something?

If you did the tutorials that started inside the Captain's Quarters when you created your character, you'd have seen it.

Of course, that's actually a relatively new thing for the EVE universe - back when I started that was not the case. So, IC, any characters created before Incarna technically could still have access to their original bodies.

But not anymore.

That comparison was, at best, astonishingly uninformed and at worst blatantly vile. Modern pirates in, for instance, Somalia were forced into this behavior because their only real alternative was starvation or some suicidal trip to Europe. Now, obviously that does not condone their crimes but it illustrates why comparing them to elite millionaires equipped with some of the most sophisticated technology in the entire universe who seem to be doing this sort of thing out of pure depravity is ... just plain senseless. By the way, did said pirates ever kill anyone?

Aaaanyhoot, thanks for elucidating this a bit more. Then I guess I was just unlucky to come across these people, eh?

I did not RP as a member of Amarr royalty, that was just a reference to their lore to point out what I am talking about by “refusing cloning technology”.

Now that you mention it, I vaguely remember something like that.

can't decide if OP is a troll

in any case, there is a big freindly warning when you jump into lowsec. next time, you should consider reading it

everything in lowsec is a target, and everyone in local wants to kill you just because you're there. that's a good standpoint to start from.

if you don't like / can't handle that, don't go to lowsec. pretty simple really.

and.. roleplaying as an amarr who doesn't use cloning? seriously? then maybe you shouldn't be derping around pirate space carelessly.

eve is not a forgiving mistress

You also have to remember that a lot of people in lowsec are not 'Pirates'.. Shadow Cartel (my alliance) identify ourselves as 'PVP'ers, not pirates.. meaning we basically play for the kill

don't care who are you, where you're from, what you're doing or what you want.. if we can kill you, and you're not blue to us, we will.. simply for the fun of it.

it's not being a psychopath / maladjusted.. it's playing the game, in the region of space where that gameplay is allowed

now mind you we'd prefer if you were in a battlecruiser and put up a good fight, but we'll take the imicus kill and sometimes t1 frigs drop valuable look cuz people do stupid **** like transport plex and implants in them.

we don't generally ransom, as we would prefer to have the +1 on our killboard.

My god. We talk about people like this on these forums all day, but to actually SEE one. It's like I just spotted big foot lol.

In all seriousness. you were in LOW SEC and don't understand why (a game built around the concept of unfairness, cheating, unhappiness, conflict and MURDER) you got MURDERED? You just made yourself the poster boy for irresponsibility.

You see, as a player, it's your responsibility to know what the game you are playing is about. EVE isn't about role playing people who don't like clones (it ain't about role-playing at all, in the traditional sense, unless the roles are "perpetrator" and "victim lol). It's about man's inhumanity to man. If what happened to you upsets you, why did you choose EVE?

Welcome to EVE btw.

Here's some great advice, upgrade you clone and get some jumpclones ASAP.