EVE General Discussion

because eve needs exclusive attention for a while. Features which are already there need maintenance, fixes, etc.

CCP just realised that they can't do all at once. again: it didn't work. They where so certain that it will work that they even forced us to use incarna which wasn't yet ready.

Is this really so hard to understand? Its a software project, you can't add stuff to a project endlessly without fixing/rewriting/refactoring already existing stuff. CCP has not the budget of companies like Blizzard where they can do risky things like adding WOW graphics to diablo and simply expect that the critical mass will buy it.


having CQs in eve right now is technically a good thing. Being able to test a new system in production is unique in business. They can tweak things, test new stuff and convince users indirectly to upgrade the craptops. The introduction of this experimental feature however was "suboptimal" as we all know.

Once the quality of eve's features is restored they certainly focus on incarna again. Eve was not ready for incarna. Nobody would complain otherwise.

CCP is doing the right thing, really. They realised (in time) that they drove eve almost against the wall.

I blogged about this today but I'll re-print the relevant bits here.

Winter 2011 is Coming

1.) If it's not been made clear by the numerous blogs and dev postings, CCP basically had to scrap their August release planning because, "What is this ****... I don't even... we are ******..."

2.) As a result, they spent the last 3-4 weeks not only changing course but re-shuffling resources and prioritizing what they could do with the time and resources left before December.

3.) While all this was going on, CCP also had to unfuck their public relations which meant letting certain people speak up and telling others to shut up. In the end, Hilmar decided to just stomp on it all and attempt to right the ship from the top down. Granted, this should have been done months ago, but at least it's done now and in a way that leaves CCP no room at all for error.

4.) What we will get for Winter will be in preparation for much larger / bigger / shinier stuff come next year. While all of the 'fixes' and updates are going on in the trenches, the Art department and such can go ahead and start working on NEW STUFF that can be coded and mechanically integrated next year.

5.) The next CSM summit is going to focus on whatever 'new stuff' CCP decides to go with for Flying in Space (FiS) and they've said they intend to keep the CSM and the players in the loop as they move toward that.

In order for Incarna to have any chance whatsoever, there needs to be solid, interesting game play. That doesn't exist, nor has the CSM seen anything on the horizon that looks to change that. Since there never appeared to be a solid idea about what 'establishments' would bring to EVE, CCP basically postponed a 'feature' that didn't exist in the first place.

Incarna has the potential to be amazing but in terms of importance, for example when allocating resources, it pales, or should pale, in comparison to spaceships. Certainly now, and probably for a long time to come as well. In the end, you can take Incarna out of EVE, but you can't take spaceships out of EVE.

Once FiS is in a decent state they can devote all the time they want to WiS, until then it's gotta be put on hold.

I think they will truly be damned if what they bring for FiS now sucks. Not delivering improvements to FiS AND WiS will unite the playerbase in unprecedented rage.

Nothing will ever "fix" this game. It is work in progress - as any MMO I am sure.

Because WiS is stoopid. Now go away.