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Constellation local insted of System local - what do you think?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2012-06-21 09:12:04 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Cpt Arareb wrote:
remove local and everything will be solvedCool

remove local and the null overpopulation problem will be solved.

Anyone who would move out of 0.0 because they don't have local is a Bad Player™ to begin with, and I doubt they do any real playing in null anyway and are just there because there's better rats/asteroids.

Actually I thought they had neutral alts running L4s or mining in highsec anyway.

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Irya Boone
The Scope
#22 - 2012-06-21 09:34:51 UTC
No local

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#23 - 2012-06-21 09:57:01 UTC
Keep local, dscan click-fests for hours on end is not a game play feature that should be allowed in 21st century video games. Cheers Blink

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-06-21 10:27:22 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
afk cloaking Cool

Yes please, move local chat to constelation chat..

it will make AFK cloakers much more effective

i am srs

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-06-21 10:31:25 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Cpt Arareb wrote:
remove local and everything will be solvedCool

remove local and the null overpopulation problem will be solved.


Anyone who would move out of 0.0 because they don't have local is a Bad Player™ to begin with, and I doubt they do any real playing in null anyway and are just there because there's better rats/asteroids.

Actually, I do my moneymaking in hisec and join 1000+ fleetfights in nullsec.

Make money in nullsec. Heh. That's a good one.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Indo Nira
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-06-21 10:34:07 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
Keep local, dscan click-fests for hours on end is not a game play feature that should be allowed in 21st century video games. Cheers Blink



wait. what? there are other mmos out there that show me the exact number of players and their names and affiliation in the same area as i am? and not anyhow... just AS SOON as i enter the area a chatbox pops up with all the above-mentioned info? hmmmm... i wonder why....
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-06-21 10:37:44 UTC
Indo Nira wrote:
Peter Raptor wrote:
Keep local, dscan click-fests for hours on end is not a game play feature that should be allowed in 21st century video games. Cheers Blink

wait. what? there are other mmos out there that show me the exact number of players and their names and affiliation in the same area as i am? and not anyhow... just AS SOON as i enter the area a chatbox pops up with all the above-mentioned info? hmmmm... i wonder why....

Are there many other MMOs which give you less than 10 seconds to respond (out of, say, 2-3 hours of constant playtime) to avoid losing more than your pride, while doing something which is repetitive and very boring?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Jack Paladin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-06-21 13:27:18 UTC
Hmm, not a bad idea and it got me thinking.

Introduce 'local' as an I-Hub/Station Service/POS Module that can be incapped (Like POS mods or a Station Service)

Some sort of upgrade that seeks out communications through the system and relays it to a 'local' channel. Only systems that have said upgrade installed will have a 'local' channel. This can be taken a whole lot further if supported.

Thoughts?
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-06-21 14:00:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Russell Casey
Lord Zim wrote:
Indo Nira wrote:
Peter Raptor wrote:
Keep local, dscan click-fests for hours on end is not a game play feature that should be allowed in 21st century video games. Cheers Blink

wait. what? there are other mmos out there that show me the exact number of players and their names and affiliation in the same area as i am? and not anyhow... just AS SOON as i enter the area a chatbox pops up with all the above-mentioned info? hmmmm... i wonder why....

Are there many other MMOs which give you less than 10 seconds to respond (out of, say, 2-3 hours of constant playtime) to avoid losing more than your pride, while doing something which is repetitive and very boring?


Rawr! EVE cold hard universe, grrrrr! HTFU, L2P. Blah, blah, blah go back to WoW.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-06-21 14:10:16 UTC
Russell Casey wrote:
Rawr! EVE cold hard universe, grrrrr! HTFU, L2P. Blah, blah, blah go back to WoW.

Constructive.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Drachiel
Mercury LLC
#31 - 2012-06-21 14:25:58 UTC
I like it. It's a good compromise between the "remove local" and "keep local" crowds without having some odd kind of delay. I'd want it to have some accompanying null buff though.
Jack Paladin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-06-21 15:02:26 UTC
Drachiel wrote:
I like it. It's a good compromise between the "remove local" and "keep local" crowds without having some odd kind of delay. I'd want it to have some accompanying null buff though.



Are you referring to my suggestions or the OP?
Savage Angel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-06-21 15:02:55 UTC
I think it would lead to Spam
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#34 - 2012-06-21 15:08:55 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Cpt Arareb wrote:
remove local and everything will be solvedCool

remove local and the null overpopulation problem will be solved.


Anyone who would move out of 0.0 because they don't have local is a Bad Player™ to begin with, and I doubt they do any real playing in null anyway and are just there because there's better rats/asteroids.


The people who enjoy 0.0 aggro mechanics without local have WH space. The people who enjoy 0.0 aggro mechanics with local have 0.0

I like local because it helps me find targets more quickly.

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-06-21 15:08:58 UTC
Melody Cadelanne wrote:
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Dodixie > Hek
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#36 - 2012-06-21 15:11:54 UTC
I like the idea, I've suggested it before in other threads as I'm sure many have. It's a good intermediate solution between those who like and dislike the idea of local. It pretty much solves free intel and afk cloaking in one shot. Everyone has an idea that reds are around but not exactly where, so people get used to it and are not so quick to dock, negating the need to even have an afk cloaker.

So close...
Haquer
Vorkuta Inc
#37 - 2012-06-21 15:12:37 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
More systems goons....I mean, scammers can spam.



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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-06-21 15:19:07 UTC
The problem with any suggestion for changing local is that there is A LOT more then just local to providing intel.
I can pull up a map and see how many are in station and in space.
For a roaming gang or even a single player looking for prey you don't need local to find someone.
As the defenders of there own space all they have is local and there intel channels.

So removing local requires multiple nerfs, not just one to balance the odds.

And we all hate the scan button it gets old really fast.
But CCP already reduced the polls on it to cut back on lag so turning it into a true radar probably has issues.

Then again a true radar would be nice.
One that just tells you direction and range but not what it is.
For that you can use the scanner if need be.
PAH why both even thinking about it, it isn't going to change so this whole thread is just a waste of time.


EVERYBODY KNOWS
Bronnwynn
Gradient
Electus Matari
#39 - 2012-06-21 15:46:47 UTC
Lolno. If you want no local, go to w-space.

If you want massive memory leaks, enable your constellation chat. It's free and easy and a great way to crash!
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#40 - 2012-06-21 16:03:12 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
Keep local, dscan click-fests for hours on end is not a game play feature that should be allowed in 21st century video games. Cheers Blink


Remove local. If someone is too lazy to d-scan they deserve death