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The skill you wish you had never trained

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Lukriss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-06-11 17:34:52 UTC
Pottsey wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
No such thing. Every skill has a use for some odd reason... it might be not now but you will find a need for it later.

I had science lvl 5.. dunno why. Was very happy to discover I needed that for my HIC.

Err I have Salvage Drone Operation which is 100% useless as it doesn’t nothing in game. I do not wish I had never trained it as I ran out of useful skills to train years ago. Now I just train random stuff I never use.


That skill only got released because of a bug, so that's no argument.
Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#82 - 2012-06-13 20:57:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dakeen Kurvora
Pottsey wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
No such thing. Every skill has a use for some odd reason... it might be not now but you will find a need for it later.

I had science lvl 5.. dunno why. Was very happy to discover I needed that for my HIC.

Err I have Salvage Drone Operation which is 100% useless as it doesn’t nothing in game. I do not wish I had never trained it as I ran out of useful skills to train years ago. Now I just train random stuff I never use.


Some where in a recent dev blog was some concept art for salvage drones... it may yet get some use?

Cant say I have any skills I regret. They just expand my options.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-06-14 00:05:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Many of you have found this out the hard way, but it's always best to take tentative steps into a field and play around with it for a while before you devote large amounts of time to training it. I found mining in a frigate enjoyable, so I kept training the mining skills as long as I kept mining. Eventually I found myself in a retriever, and was making a fair income with an easy job. I decided to tone it down for a while and spend my training in other things--any time I felt like mining I had at least the retriever to fall back on. More recently I mapped my attributes toward perception and willpower and that would be perfect for training mining barge 5, but I just don't mine much anymore so I think I'll hold off on that for a while. I've trained all tech 1 subcapital ships, and have enjoyed trying out all the different race's styles. As of yet, I haven't been able to commit to even one race, so I'm training my tech 2 skills across the board. Sure, I can't use very many tech 2 weapons, but tech 1 is alright. I can still get the same fun value, even if my ships are a bit less effective. And there's always a ship design at arms reach that I haven't even flown yet.

Try cross-training a bit guys. I guarantee you it won't hurt as much as wasted skillpoints on a profession you don't even like...and it also ensures you'll always have access to the things that are overpowered in any given expansion. I got a megathron after Crucible came out. Good times.

Smoking Blunts wrote:
my titan main, can use a retriver and t2 veld crystals. what a waste
Interesting. My main can use a retriever and t2 spodumain crystals. I don't regret it no matter how little mining I do, because I can always do it any time I want to.
I was uncertain at first about training spodumain processing to 4, but I finally gave in and did it. Perhaps someday CCP will buff spodumain enough that it's worth mining.

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Razdalan Aus
Doomheim
#84 - 2012-06-15 14:20:43 UTC
Pyrosomniac wrote:
Every single point (all 602,832 of them) I invested into missiles.


I feel your pain, I should have stopped at the 8mill mark :(
Yuna Talie-Kuo
Laborantem Societatis
#85 - 2012-06-15 16:25:36 UTC
I honestly think PI isn't a waste at all. It's little a small money printing machine. Sure, some occasional trips here and there, but I find it worth it;
CCU Lv4
IC Lv 3 (I feel like getting it to level 4, 3d 8h isn't long)
Planetology Lv2
RS Lv3

If you can find decent hotspots, and have 2 advanced plants going, filling at a constant rate, you could earn 100 mil without do much at all. Sure, that isn't a lot, it's more of a bonus.

But the skill I wish I never trained?
Negotiation Lv2
Social Lv2
Missiles (I got drones) --> 5k SP
Remote Armor Repair Systems Lv2 (The **** was I thinking?)
Small Projectile Turret Lv 3
Medium Projectile Turret Lv 1 (I don't use Projectile turrets....)
Shield Emission Systems Lv 2
Energy Weapon Rigging Lv 1

I don't do missions, I don't support through defenses, and I sure as hell don't use turrets all that often... So much wasted time QQ

I don't always do shit. But when I do, it's usually worth doing.

Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#86 - 2012-06-16 18:23:36 UTC
Amarr Carrier V. I do not own and have never owned a carrier. It's a 14x skill so I set it to train back in the days when ghost training was possible and I decided to unsub Lol.

Meldorn Vaash
State War Academy
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-06-16 20:57:21 UTC
Defender Missiles... yeah...
"Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes."
Deity Aiur
Boris Johnson's Love Children
#88 - 2012-06-17 00:21:14 UTC
While at first i really regretted training into my Hulk with T2 lasers and the crystals, i've found that being able to make my own ships deep in nullsec is really handy. Supply runs tend to be complicated and in frequent and the market has obvious holes in it. I agree with the fact that a lot of skills 'become' useful rather than at first being immediately beneficial.

I do however really regret training into gallente battleships and the large hybrid turrets. I hate battleships and i probably always will. Frigates, cruisers and cloaky stuff is where it's at in my opinion. Best skill i've trained to 5 at the moment is probably motion prediction 5. Those support skills are really some of the nicest in game.

Minmatar cruiser 5 is probably the best skill in the game though. (Rapier, cynabal, loki. yum yum)

Currently training missile support skills for my stealth bomber and Hawk. Hope i don't regret that.
Canabi
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
#89 - 2012-06-17 01:04:02 UTC
Fighters
Projected Electronic Counter Measures
Capital Hybrid Turrets
Capital Repair Systems
Jump Drive Calibration
Jump Drive Operation
Jump Fuel Conservation

Basically any capital skill. I don't use capitals. Never will. Wish I could reallocate those skills into something I do use.
I know they could be useful if I ever do decide to use capitals, but there's a near 0% chance that will happen.
grassy 420
Anoikis Equilibrium
Honorable Third Party
#90 - 2012-06-18 02:20:54 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
50k SP in PI skills is the biggest of my regrets so far, so I guess I should count myself lucky.

I have asked myself several time "why, oh why, did I ever start training for capitals?" but at the end of the day the SP investment was worth it for me.



i would also have to say pi. trinaed all of em to 4. this was to mostly help out my corp in WH space fueling and such. lol .. not in a WH anymore. high sec pi is a joke
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#91 - 2012-06-18 15:25:01 UTC
grassy 420 wrote:
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
50k SP in PI skills is the biggest of my regrets so far, so I guess I should count myself lucky.

I have asked myself several time "why, oh why, did I ever start training for capitals?" but at the end of the day the SP investment was worth it for me.



i would also have to say pi. trinaed all of em to 4. this was to mostly help out my corp in WH space fueling and such. lol .. not in a WH anymore. high sec pi is a joke

lowsec PI was decent until CCP decided to kill it by introducing POCOs.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#92 - 2012-06-19 12:23:32 UTC
carbomb wrote:
it would be cool if you could trade in unwanted skills for unallocated skill points. I'm not saying like for like because that would be stupid and give people too much advantage in certain situations. Maybe something could be done where you get say 50% or 1\3 of the skill points traded in, back as unallocated skill points. That way you could put them to good use and people could not just suddenly train say hac from 0-lvl 5 in an instant but could get themselves on the way.



+1

Refunding SP in the manner in which you described keeps the option open without letting people exploit it.
Bifordus Maximus
MissoCorp
#93 - 2012-06-19 18:32:50 UTC
I trained every PI "skill" to L5 on my main and two other alts... Oh the fail. Oops
Tyson Blake
Blake Strategic Federation
#94 - 2012-06-19 20:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyson Blake
Dunno... I always skilled for the things I wanted to do.

I was unsure at first, but I wanted to do missions, so I asked whats a good starting point.

Someone from my first corp gave me a fitted drake, and told me what to skill so I can passive shield tank.

And I always asked what skills would be good and I trained up and up. So basically I have superb shield skills and missile skills.

But now I found the love for Nightmare and somehow wished I could spend all those SP from missiles to LV5 Large Beam Laser Specialization.

I'm sure I need those missile skills at some point again, because I want to try almost any ship and any T2 weapon at some point. Will take a lot of time though.

EDIT: Not only for missions, but Pew VS Pew as well :O
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#95 - 2012-06-20 01:20:25 UTC
Gallente BS... dunno why...
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#96 - 2012-06-20 03:32:31 UTC
mm i think the "corporation management and the social/trade skills" iam not the guy for that. Just wasting time with "ship spin counter" when iam loggin.
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#97 - 2012-06-20 18:27:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinstar Colton
Omber Processing

While I am a refiner by trade and use the rest of my processing skills often... why I even spent a single skillpoint for Omber is beyond me. I don't trade in it, and I certainly would never willingly strap on Omber mining crystals to my poor Retriever and actually waste time mining the stuff. Heck, I escaped Minmatar space and moved to Amarr to get away from it. Granted, Kernite isn't a gold mine either, but Pyrox on the other hand...

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Reiisha
#98 - 2012-06-20 22:07:59 UTC
Amarr and Gallente Freighter level 5.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...