Ships & Modules

I know they are very very similar, just minor changes with Heat Sinks, Power Core Mods and Rigs, But I cant decide which one will be more suitable for missioning.


This one...

[Phantasm, Setup 1]
Type-D Power Core Modification: Reaction Control
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II

Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

True Sansha Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Multifrequency M
True Sansha Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Multifrequency M
True Sansha Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Multifrequency M
Corpum C-Type Medium Nosferatu
Corpum C-Type Medium Nosferatu

Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

39k EHP
98% Cap Stable
190 DPS

...or this one..

[Phantasm, Setup 2]
Type-D Power Core Modification: Reaction Control
Type-D Power Core Modification: Reaction Control
Damage Control II

Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

True Sansha Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Multifrequency M
True Sansha Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Multifrequency M
True Sansha Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Multifrequency M
Corpum C-Type Medium Nosferatu
Corpum C-Type Medium Nosferatu

Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

43k EHP
100% Cap Stable
156 DPS


Honest opinions guys, and don't mouth off and be a douche about it cus I'm only experimenting and wanna get other people's feelings on how i'm doing..

Fly safe.

Too right (:

Thanks for the help...

And so continues the ubiquitous douchebaggery that haunts the realms of the Eve Forums.













/cry

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Neither of those fits even come close to how you should fit a ship for missioning. Buffer tanking a mission ship that does not have an effective passive tank (such as drake, ishtar, gila, rattlesnake) is really, really bad. And a dead end, as you cannot even fathom of how to run most level 4s fitting like that. Learn good habits that will help you later.

The following fit would be far more effective:

high
3x True sansha Medium focus Pulse Laser

Medium
Fed Navy Afterburner 10 MN
Large shield booster II
Shield boost amp II
Thermic dissapation field II
EM Ward Field II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster, cap booster 800 charge

Low
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer 1
Damage control 1

Rigs
Medium Burst Aerator 1
Medium Anti EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti Thermal Screen Reinforcer

In my opinion, using pulse lasers without tech 2 lasers (for scorch) is a bad idea. No range. If you must use your True Sansha Pulses, this is a semi-ok fit.

If you don't want to use a cap booster, learn to mission without being cap stable, or go find an armor ship to fly.

I like the above fit, i just shy away from active tanking usually. The Phantasm has never let me down in missioning so far

So, what exactly do you want to hear?

Your fits are both lacking a decent tank, any kind of dps and have too much cap reg. They use faction modules on slots that not only don't need them, but do worse with them (Pulse Laser need Scorch).

If you really really want a passive succubus do it like

[Phantasm, Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Corpii C-Type Small Nosferatu
Corpii C-Type Small Nosferatu

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x3

Your fits are like posting pictures of a big rock and a christmas tree on a football forum and asking which one would be better to use as a ball for your next game. Do that, and you'll have to handle the ubiquitous douchebaggery coming your way.

On the other hand, if you're trolling, well done.

Do yourself a favor and run away from a phantasm then. Far away. Chose a ship where your skill improvement will help you towards doing level 4s well. You can't do that in a phantasm without active tanking. The logical extension of a phantasm is a nightmare, and if you don't active tank it, you are a dead man. At some point you will need to do level 4s to progress in the game, and your current line of thinking will lead you to ENORMOUS FAILURE.

If you don't want to active tank, choose a different Race to fly.

I recommend Drake, Gila, or rattlesnake in that case.

But honestly, the only sane thing to do is break you of your notion that active tanking is something you should shy away from. Don't shy away from success. Or at least shy toward another ship in which your tendencies will actually lead you to success, such as my recomendations above

So you post god awful fits, ask for criticism, get accurate criticism, and then get completely defensive and start calling everyone that posted in your thread a douche. Nice. Seems like you do not actually want criticism, but rather you're just a thin-skinned little man who wants to hear that his crappy fits are good and that he should continue wasting his time farting around in low level missions with a buffer tanked Phantasm. If that's how you like to spend your time in EVE, more power to you, but don't expect other people to pat you on the back and tell you how awesome you are.

Forums aren't really a place where people delicately tip-toe around idiocy. If you post a horrendous fit, expect someone to tell you it's a horrendous fit. If you can't handle criticism, HTFU, and in the meantime, your best bet is to stay off the forums.

Was that before or after you repeatedly called the other posters douchebags? Stop trying to white knight about attempting to facilitate polite discussion on this forum when you're the one getting all defensive and throwing out insults. If you get this upset over comments about a failfit Phantasm, I can't see your EVE career lasting very long.