Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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We have been over this, over and over. And the final conclusion...they can not hurt you if they are cloaked and while the dude is away from the comp. And you can not prove that he/she/it is AFK.

Just looking the a even playing field. Most people who go cloaking in the system all day is generally ignored, but it would be a fair mechanic if they can remain cloaked all day, we should have some way to counter that.

Can we have this too?

...simple & brilliant +1

honestly this should solve a lot of problems.

CCP please implement this mechanism.... NOW!

This thread is new and exciting.

I hate perma-cloaked neutral dudes in my local. I love being the perma-cloaked neutral dude in your local.

I want limited detection of cloaked ships. It gives an entry in overview showing only it's distance. No velocity, no name, no bracket, no corp, no alliance tag, no type... Nothing but distance. Can't show info on it. Can't even hit approach neither orbit that.

What does that and how it works exactly and how to balance it all is, bluntly put, not my problem to solve. It could be a new ship role bonus, a deployable similar to mobile bubbles, a new probe type or even a plain regular module to activate.

Why? Because, as things are, there is nothing to do against cloaked dudes. This gives us ~something~ to play with as well as ~something~ for cloakies to worry about.

I fear bombers are gonna get shafted by this so covert op cloakies should probably be exempt from this stuff?

did he any harm to you yet?? maybe he just enjoys the view

No you just need to HTFU and cry less

Also as your such a carebear i suggest staying in highsec as low/null is already full of crying carebears like yourself god forbid we dont need another one

I suppose I'll reiterate my original idea on how to "fix" that which isn't broken.

1. When a vessel cloaks, remove it from local. It doesn't make sense that it can mask it's signature from all forms of detection except local.
2. When a vessel cloaks, remove the ability of that vessel to see local. You can't be seen, you can't see who's there without a visual, probes, whatever. You're cloaked, it's a two-way street. In addition, when cloaked you can't be used as a warp-to target either.
3. When a vessel uncloaks, put a time delay of 30 or so seconds before that vessel can fire up a cyno. This will prevent abuse of the feature.

So what happens with this solution? First of all, people whining about afk cloakers won't have anything to whine about anymore. They won't see the scary ship that isn't there. There may or may not be a cloaked ship in the system but hey... it's friggin null. Grow a pair. Secondly, the cloaked vessel won't have the free no-effort intel of local at his disposal. You want to see who's there, warp over and look. Uncloak and drop probes. Earn the intel. You know... like everyone in wormholes does. Without bitching. Ultimately it adds to the experience of null space. You need to be alert in case someone's there. You may need to actually use that thing called DScan! It adds to the hunter's ability to hunt without overpowering the cyno feature. And, very importantly... it'll scare the living fecal matter out of the bot users.

Yeah, that's right... your bots won't be able to insta-warp to the station the moment a neutral shows in local... he could be already in range to scram and shoot. (If you're not a bot and have a friend handling the defenses, which should be a requirement in null anyhow, this won't be a problem.)

It's time null stopped being a field of bunnies and flowers and instead earned it's sec status.

Remove Local.

Make Cloaks not auto repeat give them a long duration timer. This prevents true afk while real scouts will know better.