Warfare & Tactics

They should allow it and put a defense system upgrade on it and allows players to man the turrets when docked in the outpost. They could even put some incarna on it and let you do it from the player in the station point of view... this of course presumes their natural extremely long time line for getting **** done, so 1+ years before walking around stations out of the cpt quarters.

"Scorched Earth" isnt a reason to NEVER make them destructable as I'm sure CCP could think of some mechanics to make suiciding your outpost difficult (e.g. just think of the 2minute self destruct timer on your ship).

Also if destroying an outpost meant destroying everything in it and also losing bonuses to the nearby space (dependent on sov mechanics) then alliances would be reluctant to "burn" them as they'd lose all assets still docked and any high quality resources in the constellation/region.

Also, destroying the outpost removes the opportunity to retake it at a later date. If you think about how often they change hands already in-game I think alliances would prefer to incapacitate rather than eliminate so if it was possible to (e.g) shut down the station services that would make things more interesting.

TLDR : I'm not really sure about the exact mechanics but in principle, yes.

So, this new outpost idea has to hold tens of millions of m3 of cargo and hundreds of millions of m3 of ships, and it needs to have man-able guns, also a fitting service .

Yea, put me down for one of them, I want it to have sentry drones and an activate able reinforce timer, and jump-drive fitted.

Ideally it would look the size of a small moon, but much more menacing.

Oh god. This question again.

Short history: This question has been around since before capitals were in game. People have been wanting to blow up nullsec stations forever. This isn't a new question or proposal, and its always been looked over without a second glance by every dev and every QA in CCP's employment history.

Now, why is that?

Lets say I have some assets in J-LPX7 in Delve, its a Minmatar service outpost, middle of W-4 constellation, fantastic strategic location, rabble rabble rabble.

I leave the game for some time.

I leave, I don't know, say my entire net worth in the station. Every asset, every ship, every module. Lets assume, for argument's sake, I'm worth forty billion isk and it's taken me seven years to gather this much worth.

The station gets taken, and I'm left with my assets intact unless I decide to liquidate.

Eventually, sov war, take the station back, I get my assets back.



Now, moving away from actual mechanics to this harebrained scheme.

Same situation. I'm in an alliance that gets forced out of a station, I can't evac all my assets in time due to having lived there forever, and they get blown up. I'm out (arbitrary value) thirty billion of my net worth. Needless to say, I'd be pretty pissed.



Different situation, same story.

Lets say that I've left the game for say...a year and a half. Real life has dictated that I need to take time off of EVE. I have say 200+ billion worth of assets and I lose it all.

Now I'm really pissed because CCP made the sole secure measure that I had to store my assets vulnerable.


Key words: Station. Sole measure to keep assets absolutely secure.


Destructible stations will. Never. Ever. Happen.

Not now, not ever, not in a future expansion, not ever precisely because of this fact.

Yes, make them killable, however it doesn't drop the assets, at downtime everything that was in that station, clones and all goes to your starter station. Heh, imagine all the carriers in Duripant trying to can bait velators.

I know that sounds a bit crazy but maybe the idea of having to get your assets back to where you want them would be annoying, a low sec school of your race's starter corp is also probably more reasonable, and then it would introduce another massive isk sink as alliances raced to rebuild outposts in strategic systems.

My dream is to have outposts be reduced to station husks. Players docked in said outpost can undock, but not use any services. After they are undocked, they cannot dock unless the station is fully repaired by dropping an outpost egg and going through the rebuilding station process.

The dream.

Whoa there, pardner. What do you mean by "anymore"?

What'd be awesome is if it's faster to destroy an outpost than to capture one, perhaps letting you skip a reinforcement timer here or there to blow it up. This would give players some extra incentive to burn them rather than taking them.

Exactly, this would punish the -A- strategy to retreat to NPC null sec when they get attacked, then reclaim their space when the danger has subsided

Wait im confused... If your outpost was destroyed that means you lost the system anyway were you really doing industry there? At least in my system you get 96 hours of warning, but in real eve you're gonna get way more warning than that...

Also, why does industry need long term security? By your premise no industry is currently done in WH space or was done before stations were able to be made...

Lastly, why does indestructible = secure? I would say that is not true at all